There are plenty of tuners in the USA who think PTG is "cliquey". Perhaps you don't understand the chip tuning from our angle...most of us don't bring pianos up a little at a time. Bring it up and bring it up again...however many times it takes...US tuners, in general, don't believe in a little at time is beneficial in the least bit....so you're English training is showing...;-] NOT THAT THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT>>>>imho. I think we can get an idea of what PTA's work life is like by their website. Predominately on the first page is a definition of straight-strung vs. overstrung and overdampers vs. underdampers. I don't think anywhere else in the world is that a front page item. I can't really remember it being discussed. My post about PTA discussing nothing but birdcages seems about right. You would think that they wouldn't have anymore birdcages in England. I thought they sent them all to us to dispose of....;-] ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: "Michael Gamble" <michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk> To: pianotuna@yahoo.com, Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Received: 10/7/2005 2:07:13 PM Subject: RE: Piano Tuners' Association >I agree, Don. I knew they existed many years ago when they tried to get me >to join them. Even then I could think up no reason to do so - they were (and >presumably still are) so "cliquey". Chipping up a piano doesn't worry me one >iota - I did it to my S&S 'A' when I re-strung it just last month. About >fifteen years ago I voluntarily took up a place on a "hammer hanging course" >at Heckschers in London - one of a series of courses they (Heckschers) were >promoting and was the only independent tech there. The series, >unfortunately, died the death. The PTA made much of this course in their >newsletter, though they had, so far as I know, no hand in its preparation. >It was my presence that caused them to send me this news-letter and invite >me to join the PTA. I have no regrets.... >Regards from a dark Downland Village >Michael G.(UK) >-----Original Message----- >From: Don [mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com] >Sent: 07 October 2005 17:00 >To: Michael Gamble >Subject: RE: Piano Tuners' Association >Hi Michael, >I agree with you--however they can be as "exclusive" >as they wish. If you are a member--take it up with >them. If not--what the heck--let them sink (or swim). >I understand that part of the "test" there is doing a >"chip tuning" which 99% of all tuners in North America >would never do i.e. there would be darn few members! >--- Michael Gamble <michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk> >wrote: >> Don - That sounds like the "Tech Exclusion Zone"! >> To what pupose? And who benefits? >> Regards from Sunny Sussex >> Michael G.(UK) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Don [mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com] >> Sent: 07 October 2005 06:32 >> To: Pianotech >> Subject: RE: Piano Tuners' Association >> >> Hi Michael, >> >> I suppose you have heard of PTG-L as well--but you >> can't join it--unless >> you are a member of PTG. It was clear from the >> comments about the UK >> listserv that it is "members only". >> >> At 07:56 AM 10/7/2005 +0100, you wrote: >> > I agree Avery. There's just this >> statement out of the blue. >> >The Piano Tuner's Association (of Great >> Britain?) claim to have an >> >equivalent of the List. I have never come across it >> or even been guided >> >gently towards it as I was towards the List. I did >> not know it existed. Now >> >we hear it is extant.. But that's all. >> Regards Michael G.(UK) >> > From: Avery Todd >> [mailto:avery1@houston.rr.com] >> > Sent: 06 October 2005 22:24 >> > To: Pianotech >> > Subject: Re: Piano Tuners' Association >> ?????? >> > >> > Avery >> > >> > At 12:42 PM 10/6/05, you wrote: >> > >> > Where is the PTA version of Pianotech then?? >> > >> > Ric No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG >> >Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: >> 267.11.13/123 - Release >> >Date: 10/6/2005 >> >> Regards, >> Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T. >> Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat >> >> mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com >> http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/ >> >> 3004 Grant Rd. REGINA, SK, S4S 5G7 >> 306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner >> >> >> >> >> >Regards, >Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T. >3004 Grant Rd, Regina, SK, S4S 5G7 >Tuner for the Saskatchewan Centre of the Arts >http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/ > >__________________________________ >Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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