Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses?

David Ilvedson ilvey@sbcglobal.net
Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:10:45 -0700


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You probably only need to repin unless when you're reaming (Mannino's r=
eamers right?) you feel a lot of crap in the bushing.   Could be from t=
oo much glue...is this Korean?   Probably...
David I.




Original message
From: "Matthew Todd" 
To: Pianotech 
Received: 9/13/2005 2:31:05 PM
Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses?


Should I take the opportunity to rebush as well?
 
Matthew

"William R. Monroe" <pianotech@a440piano.net> wrote:
David,

It is a Shafer & Sons grand. Age...........?

Respectfully,
William R. Monroe


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David's Email" 
To: "Pianotech" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses?


> M...
>
> Is this a studio or grand?
>
> David I.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William R. Monroe" 
> To: "Pianotech" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses?
>
>
> > Matthew,
> >
> > As I said before, I'd repin in this situation. I would also opt for=

> > taking
> > it to the shop - depending on w! hat kind of drive time you would f=
ace.
It
> > certainly could be done in the home, but my experience is that thes=
e
> > things
> > often take more time than you expect, and further, especially as yo=
u are
> > getting the hang of the procedure, it might be nice to not have the=

client
> > looking over your shoulder.
> >
> > I'd check each flange, repinning to get each one at a consistent sw=
ing
> > number. I know some techs will opt for obtaining a specific level o=
f
> > friction (6 grams, 7 grams, graduating, etc.). I don't know that ei=
ther
> > method is superior to the other provided you understand the process=
 and
> > what
> > each is telling you - e.g. 7 swings on a bass hammer will have more=

> > friction
> > at the pinning than 7 swings on a treble hammer - all other things =
being
> > equal.
> >
> > What is the make of the piano ! BTW? Curiosity..........
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > William R. Monroe
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Matthew Todd" 
> > To: "Pianotech" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses?
> >
> >
> >> Some of the worst hammers there don't swing at all. About six of t=
hem
> >> are
> > that bad, and others have between one to two. There are some others=

that
> > "seem" to be fine. I say "seem" because I tested their piano by pla=
ying
> > it
> > first, finding the really bad ones, then taking the action out and
really
> > examining them to pinpoint the problem.
> >>
> >> Matthew
> >> "William R. Monroe" wrote:
> >! ;> Hi Matthew,
> >>
> >> You wrote: "Could this just be related to swelling?"
> >>
> >> Only you can tell us. Is it humid there now? Does it get dry in th=
e
> >> winter, and then, are the hammer centers more free? You'll need to=
 do
> >> some
> >> analyzing yourself and determine what is your best solution. If th=
e
> > hammers
> >> are really seized up (less than a couple swings), I'd be comfortab=
le
> > saying
> >> that it's not just humidity, and opt for repinning. Of course, if =
the
> >> bushings are all full of nastys, maybe needs new bushings?
> >>
> >> Once you've determined the cause of the problem, then determine th=
e
> > solution
> >> that works for you and your client.
> >>
> >> Respectfully,
> >> William R. Monroe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Matthew Todd"
> >> To: "Pianotech"
> >>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:20 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses?
> >>
> >>
> >> > I believe I will take the action home with me. These are hammer
> >> > centers.
> >> The hammers are very tight to move! Could this just be related to
> > swelling?
> >> >
> >> > This is not a Steinway. I don't believe I have the Mannino, but =
I do
> > have
> >> a set I ordered from Schaff, and a good center pin punch.
> >> >
> >> > Matthew
> >> >
> >> > J Patrick Draine wrote:
> >> > Matthew,
> >> > If you are already skilled & speedy at repinning action parts, g=
o for
> >> > it. But it sounds like you aren't so ... bring the action to you=
r
> >> > shop. It will probably take you more than 4 hours (are these ham=
mer
> >> > centers? jack centers? damper lever centers??).
> >> > Why are you repinning? Parts frozen up? Are treatment with Prote=
c
> >> > CPL, or sizing the bushings with an alcohol/water solution, viab=
le
> >> > alternative solutions?
> >> > Is this a Steinway?? If so, it's likely you're dealing with
> >> > verdigris, and repinning is seldom the correct remedy (parts
> >> > replacement is best).
> >> > Give us more details and we'll be able to give more precise advi=
ce.
> >> > Do you have appropriate tools? The Mannino broaches, a quality c=
enter
> >> > pin punch, etc?
> >> > Patrick Draine
> >> >
> >> > On S! ep 13, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Matthew Todd wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I will be undergoing a repinning project on a client's grand. =
The
> >> > > "G" Piano Works guide says it takes 4 hours. Is it appropiate =
to
> >> > > do this project in the client's home, or do I need to take the=

> >> > > action with me and do it in the shop? If I take the action wit=
h
> >> > > me, that brings up another question. If it's raining, how do y=
ou
> >> > > all prepare and protect the grand action??
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