---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Matthew, Just a hunch.... I work on a Samick SG 150. I'd be willing to bet that your Shafer is a Samick-made product. But if yours is a 1968, it predates mine by 30 years. I ran into a similar problem. Make sure you look closely at where the problem lies. I found that a good many wippen, jack, repetition, and hammer centers were essentially seized up . A couple of underlever flanges were sluggish, too. I have probably replaced 1/3-1/2 the center pins in the piano in the last 3 appointments. When you start removing center pins, you may discover that there is dark, sort of gooey stuff on them. If that is the case, I believe it is graphite from graphite impregnated flange bushing cloth. (My fear is that I will go back one time and find that the replaced pins will start seizing, too). The piano that I work on suffers from sitting in a picture window and getting extreme doses of sunlight in the winter months. I am not certain that heat exacerbates the condition, but it seems to get worse when the sun hits piano squarely. Be patient, work slowly until you get the hang of it. I find it a nice break from tuning--for the first couple of hours, at least! I have had more than one 4 hour session in the customer's home. It saves you drive time if you can do it there. Having a stand or platform of some kind for the action is essential. Good luck! Dave Stahl In a message dated 9/13/2005 7:38:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, toddpianoworks@yahoo.com writes: Some of the worst hammers there don't swing at all. About six of them are that bad, and others have between one to two. There are some others that "seem" to be fine. I say "seem" because I tested their piano by playing it first, finding the really bad ones, then taking the action out and really examining them to pinpoint the problem. Matthew "William R. Monroe" <pianotech@a440piano.net> wrote: Hi Matthew, You wrote: "Could this just be related to swelling?" Only you can tell us. Is it humid there now? Does it get dry in the winter, and then, are the hammer centers more free? You'll need to do some analyzing yourself and determine what is your best solution. If the hammers are really seized up (less than a couple swings), I'd be comfortable saying that it's not just humidity, and opt for repinning. Of course, if the bushings are all full of nastys, maybe needs new bushings? Once you've determined the cause of the problem, then determine the solution that works for you and your client. Respectfully, William R. Monroe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Todd" To: "Pianotech" Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:20 PM Subject: Re: Repinning! ....Can I pullease get more responses? > I believe I will take the action home with me. These are hammer centers. The hammers are very tight to move! Could this just be related to swelling? > > This is not a Steinway. I don't believe I have the Mannino, but I do have a set I ordered from Schaff, and a good center pin punch. > > Matthew > > J Patrick Draine wrote: > Matthew, > If you are already skilled & speedy at repinning action parts, go for > it. But it sounds like you aren't so ... bring the action to your > shop. It will probably take you more than 4 hours (are these hammer > centers? jack centers? damper lever centers??). > Why are you repinning? Parts frozen up? Are treatment with Protec > CPL, or sizing the bushings with an alcohol/water solution, viable > alternative solutions? > Is this a Steinway?? If so, it's likely you're dealing with ! > verdigris, and repinning is seldom the correct remedy (parts > replacement is best). > Give us more details and we'll be able to give more precise advice. > Do you have appropriate tools? The Mannino broaches, a quality center > pin punch, etc? > Patrick Draine > > On Sep 13, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Matthew Todd wrote: > > > I will be undergoing a repinning project on a client's grand. The > > "G" Piano Works guide says it takes 4 hours. Is it appropiate to > > do this project in the client's home, or do I need to take the > > action with me and do it in the shop? If I take the action with > > me, that brings up another question. If it's raining, how do you > > all prepare and protect the grand action?? > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives ____________________________________ Yahoo! for Good ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/61/a2/3f/eb/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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