A predominant "sizzle" sound like cymbals with rivets??? I don't think so. Such a sound would be wholly unacceptable and I've never heard anything like that from a Grotrian or any other similarly designed piano. Length of the backscale or lack of cloth in the backscale or in other non speaking areas will not yield any sizzle sound or sound of riveted cymbals. If you hear that I would look for something else, like a loose piece of wire resting on a string. If you get a bit too much overring of sympathetics for your liking, then weave some cloth into the offending areas. Test for that by striking some staccato chords in various areas of the piano and listening for a bit of after echo. How much is desirable is a matter of taste. Some people like a very dry and complete shutoff, some don't. After restringing I often don't put any cloth in until it's evident that the piano needs it, unless I want the look of it. The areas where you are most likely to need it will be the bass and the low end of the tenor on some pianos. Rarely do I find the cloth necessary in the aliquot area of a Steinway. Most people insert the cloth more out of habit than need. David Love davidlovepianos@comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ric Brekne Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 7:11 AM To: pianotech Subject: Grotrian Steinwegs - to list or not to list? The length of the backscale, plus the other unmuted non singing lengths, plus the fact that the entire backscale of these instruments is unmuted yeilds a very predominant sizzle sound into the entire sound mix. Not my favorite sound personally. Sort of sound like one of those rivetet cymbals. Otherwise I've always found Grotrians to be lacking something I've never really been able to put my finger on. Nicely made instruments I suppose, but nothing there that grabs you and moves the earth under your feet. jmt RicB ------------- That is indeed "the question" Whether 'tis required in the back-scale of my S&S 'A' or not. The photos attached shew some interesting aspects of this very nice Grotrian. The wrest pins are nickle plated, the "aliquot" bar is continuous - unlike the S&S where it is "stepped"-per-note and the lack of Listing Cloth in the back scale - except for the covered string back-scale. Any helpful comments out there? Regards Michael G.(UK) _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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