post pitch-raise creep?

[Bob Hull]

Terry, and others,

You talked about techs arriving at the desired pitch
with one motion of the tuning lever.  I have heard of
this and attempted it.   
I would like to hear if there are many of you who
arrive at the desired pitch with one motion of the
lever during the pitch raise process.  It seems like
this is what James Arledge was showing us in the
turbo-tuning class.  One motion, one attempt at the
pitch then move on.  He tuned very, very quickly, and
accurately (does lots of studio work).  It seems like
it would be a great help in making a living at this if
you can be that quick and not suffer in the accuracy
or stability departments.  


The ETD's pitch raise feature fosters a quest for
accuracy and is this perhaps counterproductive.  If it
sets-up pitch being sharp after pr and slows us down,
should we strive for that accuracy?  

I did three pr's today and spent more time on the
pitch raise than on the final pass on each tuning. 
These were not big pitch raises (one was a lowering)
After the final pass I only had two touch up two or
three strings.  

Wednesday I'm expecting to do 3 more pr's and I will
try to blow thru the pr's (20 minutes max) and be a
little sloppy.  After the final pass, I'll see what
the overall time was and how much extra touch up has
to  be done.  Maybe I'll post my results.

Could pin setting and too much concern over "accuracy"
during pr contribute to post -pitch -raise creep? 
(offsets the string's tendency to move back towards
starting pitch)  

Always trying to improve a little more,
Bob Hull


 --- Farrell <mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> Interesting indeed Bob. I typically spend about 45
> minutes doing a 
> significant pitch raise (PR) and then about an hour
> tuning. My observation 
> is that most techs claim to do (and I presume do) a
> pitch raise in 20 
> minutes or so - some as quick as 10 minutes. Some
> even do what might be 
> called a "blind" PR where you figure out about how
> much of a pin turn is 
> needed for the PR and then you just yank each pin
> that much and I guess 
> cross your fingers (or at least that is what I would
> do).
> 
> But the thing I don't get with these quick PRs is
> that for a fine tuning, 
> you really want the notes to be within about two
> cents of your target. I 
> find that when I am raising the pitch 20 or 50 or
> however many cents, I need 
> to make a couple motions of my lever to get within
> two cents of target (and 
> I think I make a more stable tuning if I settle the
> string a bit). How can 
> that be done in one quick motion?
> 
> Now kids, don't beat me up too terribly badly. I
> know I don't wield the 
> fastest tuning lever in the west (or east or south
> or anywhere for that 
> matter). But it seems to me that to provide an
> accurate stable tuning that 
> you want to be making minimal pin movements during
> the fine tuning pass - 
> and be starting with a string that is fairly stable
> - and that means you 
> want the strings to be within a couple cents at most
> of target. And I don't 
> see how that can be done during a 15 minute PR (at
> least by me - hey, I 
> can't figure out how anyone can ride a unicycle
> either).
> 
> Be nice.
> 
> Terry Farrell
> > 
> 


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