A 435 or A 440 ?

[Robert Wilson]

I wouldn't make judgements about what the customer may
be able to percieve.  It may be that their neighbour,
friend or cousin is a concert pianist or a fine
musician who CAN tell the difference.  You wouldn't
want them saying that the piano was flat just after
you tuned it!

Bob.

--- Isaac Sadigursky <irs.pianos at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Hi,Byron! Regarding Perfect Pitch and beats [not
> beets] recognition: I carry
> severall tuning forks,among them A-435,A-440,A-442
> ,A-445 and a few altered
> A-440 and with those forks I was able to prove to
> severall clients,some
> Studio Musicians of high caliber,that all this is a
> myth.I,personally,do
> have ""pefect Pitch",can tell any note on any
> instrument in a different zip
> code,but it has nothing to do in our trade..All of
> us know that ,already.
> Try to play with different tuning forks,it's amazing
> listening experience!!
> Hope,this info helps.. Isaac
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org
> [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
> Of Byron Quam
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 8:59 AM
> To: 'Pianotech List'
> Subject: RE: A 435 or A 440 ?
> 
>  
> 
> I really question the concept of perfect pitch. Most
> people that claim that
> they or other family members have this trait are not
> accurate. What
> percentage of these people would be able to
> distinguish between two freshly
> tuned, similar pianos one at 440 and the other at
> 443. Especially if they
> would hear each after a period of time where they
> wouldn't have a fresh
> reference in their head.
> 
>  
> 
> Byron
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Ilvedson [mailto:ilvey at sbcglobal.net] 
> Sent: July 26, 2006 7:57 AM
> To: dnereson at 4dv.net; pianotech at ptg.org
> Subject: RE: A 435 or A 440 ?
> 
> 5 beats per second?...if 442 is about 8 cents sharp,
> 438 would be about 8
> cents flat and 435 getting close to 20 cents
> flat...that seems like a pretty
> hefty difference...I'd think it was noticeable to a
> 440 perfect pitcher...
> 
> David Ilvedson, RPT
> Pacifica, CA 94044
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   _____  
> 
> 
> Original message
> From: "David Nereson" 
> To: "Pianotech List" 
> Received: 7/25/2006 11:43:15 PM
> Subject: RE: A 435 or A 440 ?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org
> [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org]On Behalf
> Of Jack Houweling
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:01 PM
> To: pianotech
> Subject: A 435 or A 440 ?
> 
>  
> 
> Hello
> 
>  
> 
> I am working on a Mason and Risch grand piano and
> the plate has a stamp that
> says  " International Pitch A 435" .
> 
>  
> 
> Is it best to tune this piano to A 435 ?
> 
>  
> 
> The mother tells me the daughter has perfect pitch.
> She is away at school so
> I cannot talk to her.  Would someone with perfect
> pitch be bothered by
> anything other than A 440? 
> 
>  
> 
> Jack Houweling
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Nobody has PERFECT pitch.  Some people have very
> good pitch recognition.
> But to most of them, if you played A435 and asked
> them to tell you what note
> it was, they would just say "A," not  "an A that's a
> bit flat."   At any
> rate, the plate and frame can most likely handle
> having the pitch raised to
> 440.  You might check to see that the plate bolts
> are snug.  But yes, it was
> designed to be at 435.  And 440 is only 5 beats per
> second sharp at A #49.
> There are probably times during humid summers when
> it's way sharper than
> that.    
> 
>           --David Nereson, RPT 
> 
> 



		
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