RH problem--- Dampp-Chaser humidistat will NOT run a roomdehumidifier!

Farrell mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com
Fri May 5 18:18:44 MDT 2006


> Gordon Stelter wrote:
>   Someone here said it would, 

What would what?

> and that's not true.

What's not true?

> The DC humidistat has a 200 Watt limit. 

600 Watt, last time I looked.

> You could, of
> course, run it to a relay which then turned the
> dehumidifier on and off. ( see "Grainger Industrial
> Supply" ) 

Run what to a relay?

> This became of interest after a stuck-on
> Kenmore dehumidifier damaged a very clean, well-made
> Bjur grand that I had just purchased! 

What on earth is a Bjur grand?

> Dried it out
> quite badly. I was also interested in this for better
> accuracy in humidity control.

Interested in what?

Terry Farrell

>     Well, I just took the humidistat from the Kenmore
> dehumidifier out, and the problem was immediately
> apparent: the hydroscopic nylon strip which grows and
> shrinks with humidity changes is supposed to be in a 
> loop, with the ends glued together. It pulls on a 
> switch which turns tthe compressor on and off. The
> ends came unglued, so it stayed "on" all the time. I
> just emailed the maker (DNA Group in N.C. ) and asked
> them for a new switch. I also asked them to pay for
> the piano. 
> ( Please wish me luck! )
> 
>     
>     
> 
> --- Farrell <mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> 
>> Not trying to be argumentative, but a vapor barrier
>> will not solve this 
>> problem. The condensation is from water vapor in the
>> air inside the room. If 
>> the room is at 40% RH and 72 degrees, it has a
>> certain amount of water vapor 
>> in the air - whether more vapor is coming into the
>> room and being removed by 
>> a dehumidifier or whether the room is vapor-sealed
>> and at 40% RH with no 
>> humidifier or dehumidifier operating. When air under
>> those conditions is 
>> chilled to 46 degrees, condensation form - no need
>> for additional vapor to 
>> enter the room. Presumably it is insulation you need
>> - not a vapor barrier.
>> 
>> However, a vapor barrier is likely always a good
>> thing to have - will help 
>> keep your room conditions constant and minimize the
>> work a climate-control 
>> system has to do with humidity - but the specific
>> problem here is 
>> insulation.
>> 
>> Or a warmer climate. Just wait a few years. Unless
>> of course the Gulf Stream 
>> stops.......
>> 
>> Terry Farrell
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > Thanks Chistopher, Terry... and Don.
>> >
>> > I wonder if you could expound a bit on exactly
>> what a vapor barrier is... 
>> > is that like a space of dead air in between double
>> panes of window glass ?
>> >
>> > Terry... about the Farhenheit bit.... I was
>> speaking Amerilish for youz 
>> > guys's benifit you see... :)
>> >
>> > Cheers and thanks.
>> > RicB
>> >
>> > Responding as an architect, I asked a senior
>> technical architect in our
>> > office for his thoughts. He agrees with Mr.
>> Farrell. The building
>> > envelop needs a vapor barrier. If it is a hot
>> humid climate, the barrier
>> > should go to the outside. If it is a cold dry
>> climate, like here, it
>> > should go towards the inside.
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > My best guess is that the ceiling and upper walls
>> are poorly insulated.
>> > These are outside walls? The dew point for 40% RH
>> and 72 degrees F is 46
>> > degrees. So if it was 36 degrees F outside and the
>> walls were around 40
>> > degrees F or so, condensation will occur on the
>> walls.
>> >
>> > I thought Europeans used the Celsius scale for
>> temperature.
>> >
>> > Terry Farrell



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