Well, Les being basically a coward, I will polish the wire first, then try to bush the hole better, and then attempt to ascertain if the bends need to be altered. As I said, my cheap fix worked for awhile. I might be able to figure a way to double-bush it. I don't want to plug and drill because I know a tiny bit can mean disaster,and that doesn't seem like fun at all. Thanks for a lot on which to think. les Richard Brekne wrote: > Hi David S. > > I think if you look a bit closer to replies Les made to a couple > posts, including at least one of mine, he states that it is one damper > that is clacking and that it is because the bushing is not able to do > its job. > > For my part, I have recommended a simple single plug and drill if all > else is indeed well enough. Tho I have acknowledged the value of > experience in replacing the whole rail. Doing a whole rail in this > case can easily also be defended from the standpoint that it is an > older double bushing cloth guide rail and these seem to often develop > bushing related problems anyways. A reference to Ken Sloane and > Oberlin was made through the chain of posts... that is because at the > Oberlin institute they take advantage of the opportunity both teach > this rather simple procedure whilst at the same time upgrading older > Steinways a bit. > > I think also Les pretty clearly states he has ruled out regulation and > other problems as the source of the problem. > > http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/2008-August/225802.html > http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/2008-August/225812.html > http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/2008-August/225874.html > > Proper regulation of the wire is of course a prerequisite, tho I don't > see any conflict in issues there if he should decide to re-do a whole > rail. Hope this helps your itch at least a little a bit :-) I know > I've had my head scratching left unrequited on more then a single > occasion tho... so I know how that feels. Me thinks you are just as > insane as the rest of us friend David ! Don't worry... be happy ! > > Cheers > RicB > > > David Skolnik wrote: >> >> >> At 04:09 PM 8/6/2008, RicB wrote: >>> Grin... I for one have assumed Les was telling us exactly what the >>> problem was from the beginning. Seems to me he has qualified exactly >>> that on a couple occasions afterwards so I shouldnt expect there >>> would be any additional info forthcoming. Re doing an entire rail >>> is hardly remanufacturing the piano... tho to be sure a bit more >>> involved then a single plug and drill. On the other hand again... >>> its good experience and worth the effort IMB. >> >> Ric, list >> I was going to respond off list, but, in the end, that felt like a >> cope out. In all seriousness, I've looked at every one of Les' posts >> and, while he speculates about the wear of the bushing being related >> to the offset nature of that damper, he NEVER actually states what >> the noise source is. But even assuming it's the damper head >> contacting the plate, why would you (and others) think it appropriate >> to have to remake an entire rail for what he described, however >> valuable the experience? If he can get the customer to pay for it, >> perhaps that's a different story. But that won't help him the next >> time he's faced with this problem. As far as such a project not >> qualifying as remanufacturing, I'll continue to refrain, as long as >> possible, from using emoticons. Of course I was being dramatic, >> facetious, ironic, whatever. If you'll humor me, just a little: what >> is the consensus understanding of the source of the noise, and what >> must he do to fix that ONE note? Is everyone saying that it is >> impossible to rebush a double bushed guide rail hole? >> >> Meanwhile, Les, I'll repost the questions I previously asked, minus >> the levity: >> >>> What vintage B? What was your temporary solution? Even if your >>> assessment of bushing cloth wear is accurate, what is source of the >>> clacking? Wire against glue, or damper block against plate? Did >>> you extract the bushing cloth to determine extent and direction of >>> wear? >> >> Just seeking clarity or confirmation of my insanity. >> >> David Skolnik >> Hastings on Hudson, NY >> >> >> >> >> >
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