question for for Israel, was Re: unethical and illegal behavior on the part of some

Porritt, David dporritt at mail.smu.edu
Fri Feb 29 13:46:36 MST 2008


Actually, I didn’t want to make this confrontational.  Copy means copy.  Writing down the information, photocopying the information (which was the problem in this case), copying by whatever means you can think of.  Using the information is not illegal, that’s why it’s there.  Making any copy of copyrighted work is illegal.  There are “fair use” exceptions that are pretty explicit and there’s a ton of information on the web about fair use.  

 

dp

 

____________________

David M. Porritt, RPT

dporritt at smu.edu

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Willem Blees
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:13 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: question for for Israel,was Re: unethical and illegal behavior on the part of some

 

Dave

I want to keep this confrontational. 

What is the legal definition of "copy the information?" Does sending information (dates found in the PPA), over the Internet constitute copying of information? 

Israel, you seem to have a good handle about legal issues. Can you answer this?

Wim



-----Original Message-----
From: Porritt, David <dporritt at mail.smu.edu>
To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 4:55 am
Subject: RE: unethical and illegal behavior on the part of some

There’s really nothing to discuss here.  The owner of a “copyright” is the only one who has the “right” to “copy” the material.  You can use the information, you can read from it, you can make decisions on the information but you CAN NOT copy it.  

 

The end.

 

dp

 

David M. Porritt, RPT

dporritt at smu.edu <http://webmail.aol.com/34865/aol/en-us/dporritt@smu.edu> 

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org <mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org?> ] On Behalf Of Willem Blees
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:56 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: unethical and illegal behavior on the part of some

 

Dave

 

I said that scanning all the information is illegal. But what we're doing is passing on information to customers, the same as if you took information from my book to help you sell a rebuild. That's what my book is for. If we are not allowed to use the information in the book, why buy it?  

Wim

-----Original Message-----
From: Porritt, David <dporritt at mail.smu.edu>
To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 2:28 pm
Subject: RE: unethical and illegal behavior on the part of some

You win!  Is there a prize for the most outrageous idea?  Wim, it’s the law!!  It’s US law, international law and even in effect in Hawaii!  You’ve published a book.  Do you want people to scan it and send it everywhere?  Use your hat rack!

 

dp

 

____________________

David M. Porritt, RPT

dporritt at smu.edu

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org <mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org?> ] On Behalf Of Willem Blees
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:06 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: unethical and illegal behavior on the part of some

 

 

 

As you know the Pierce Piano Atlas is a world famous publication.  It is the subject of registrations and copyrights obtained in the United States and throughout the world. No part of the Pierce Piano Atlas may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means -- electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise --  without written permission of the publisher.  We vigorously defend our valuable copyrights, and take instances of infringement with the utmost seriousness.



Does this mean if a customer asks me what year her piano was made, I am not allowed to give her that information, and include some info about the piano, without first asking Larry?

I've got an idea. Why don't all of us call his office every time we want to share information with one of our customers. Maybe a hundred phone calls a day will let him ease off a little. 

Now, I agree that an electronically produced list of all the manufacturers and serial numbers is illegal. But just one name and number? Give me a break.

Wim

________________________________

Supercharge your AIM. Get the AIM toolbar <http://download.aim.com/client/aimtoolbar?NCID=aolcmp00300000002586>  for your browser. 

________________________________

Supercharge your AIM. Get the AIM toolbar <http://download.aim.com/client/aimtoolbar?NCID=aolcmp00300000002586>  for your browser. 

________________________________

Supercharge your AIM. Get the AIM toolbar <http://download.aim.com/client/aimtoolbar?NCID=aolcmp00300000002586>  for your browser. 

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20080229/1b2edd12/attachment-0001.html 
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 88109 bytes
Desc: image001.jpg
Url : https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20080229/1b2edd12/attachment-0001.jpe 


More information about the Pianotech mailing list

This PTG archive page provided courtesy of Moy Piano Service, LLC