Voicing Help

[Ed Sutton]

David-

Yes, but, what about the blood...
You must be tougher, or better co-ordinated than me.
I can't do the rapid-fire stabbing.

Ed Sutton

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net>
To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: Voicing Help


> Not that I'm pushing Yamaha hammers, but many higher compression hammers 
> ( Yamaha, Renner...etc....NOT NORDISKA et al/AKA rock...) work fabulously 
> with lower shoulder needling.   They need it and the "bloom...projection" 
> will happen.   These are "HIGH" quality hammers, not to be scoffed at, but 
> worked with.   For me a week with Yamaha installing new C7 hammers in a 
> CFIII was an eye opener.   The projection/tone above the strings that 
> happened with opening up the shoulders with new hammers, may well be 
> common knowledge to many...but it wasn't to me.   Projection had never 
> really connected.   "Tone above the strings" as my Yamaha teacher 
> said...DID...what Julia needs to do is straight-forward voicing.   NOT at 
> strike-point exclusively and certainly not with steam...IMHO
>
> David Ilvedson, RPT
> Pacifica, CA  94044
>
> ----- Original message ----------------------------------------
> From: erwinspiano at aol.com
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Received: 5/4/2008 8:23:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Voicing Help
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>>? Julia
>>? I have never understood the Yamaha hammer design philosophy. They come 
>>back
>>to the place you've described frequently. even with my best job of voicing 
>>I can not
>>get the tone I want or the tone to last with a majority of OEM hammers.
>>?? So many good low compression hammers works so well in these pianos.? 
>>The
>>Ronsen is a good one with 3 felts to choose from. I'd go Bacon or VFG 
>>felt. The
>>Wurzen felt can be a bit? stiff in these pianos. I find the piano in 
>>general can
>>develop more tonal potential & dynamics & a more enjoyable?tone overall 
>>with
>>replacement hammers. Others may disagree....I'm ok with that.
>>? Dale Erwin
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>>Greetings,
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>>???????? I usually shallow needle my Yami's U3?hammers after tuning to 
>>take off the
>>"glassy" edge. However, after 10+ years of playing on this piano (This is 
>>my
>>personal piano), sugar-coating ain't cutting it anymore.? The hammers 
>>sound
>>ear-piercing.?I side needled the area just in front?of the wood core, but 
>>this only
>>alleviated the ear piercing sound a little.?These hammers were?packed 
>>hard?too!??Is
>>Yamaha?hammer quality the problem? ?What am I doing wrong? ...or aren't I
>>needling enough??
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>>?
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>>Thanks
>
>>Julia Gottshall
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>>Reading, PA?
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