[pianotech] Database for Piano Business

Al Guecia/AlliedPianoCraft AlliedPianoCraft at hotmail.com
Thu Mar 5 05:57:07 PST 2009


Thanks for the added info Tom. I will spend some time with it when I get a 
chance.

Al


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From: "Tom Servinsky" <tompiano at bellsouth.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:14 AM
To: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net>; <pianotech at ptg.org>
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Database for Piano Business

> David reminded me of the T&C color code option, so let me jump in with a 
> few tweaks that I do.
> One nifty things that I do is avoiding playing phone tag with  customers, 
> which sometimes takes forever to get into the books..
> I now will return their call and give them a time and date which will work 
> for my schedule. I get a higher number of people agreeing to my time 
> suggestion right from the start. I then color code that appointment with 
> lime green ( why that color was picked, I haven't the foggiest idea) so 
> that appointment stands out on my schedule as a non-confirmed appointment. 
> When they call or return the email and confirm, then it goes to a 
> non-colored appointment. It's a quick and easy way to avoid phone tag 
> issues and getting people on the books quicker. It's a simple right click 
> on the mouse and the file icons pop up allowing the simple change.
> I also have about 4 basic groups that get color coded ,especially on days 
> of concerts. Rehearsals get one color, final tuning prior to a concert 
> gets another color. Its an easy way to get my attention for the day's 
> details without getting too cumbersome.
> I do send out reminders, both with emails and reminder cards. T&C allows 
> this with complete ease.
> I use the categories section to determine which month and year the 
> customer is to be reminded.You can create as many categories as you want.
> I have categories set up like this:
> Jan 2009
> Jan 2010
> Jan 2011
> Feb 2009
> Feb 2010
> It's basically very old fashioned an nothing about this is rocket science. 
> When I complete the service appointment, I update the customer's category 
> with when I need to remind them. Then on any given month, you need only to 
> go to that month's category and open. Those who need reminded appear in 
> the contact list. Then go to the print command and determine which you 
> want to print. It also will allows you determine what type of label size 
> and form you want. Or you can print envelopes, if that's your choosing. 
> Quite honesty, this simple feature for tickling customers is why I have 
> stayed with T&C for so many years. It's quick and simple.
> One of things I've mentioned to T&C folks about is allowing the use of a 
> create a pre-made reminder type of email card that could be applied to all 
> those due. I'm trying to gear all of my email-friendly customers to expect 
> reminders via email. Having a clever email that's pre-made as part of T&C 
> would be sweet. Now I have something I made and saved in My Documents and 
> do a cut and past. The nice thing about the T&C folks is that you can 
> actually call them up and discuss ideas for tweaks down the road. They 
> actually like getting feedback from users. If enough people suggest 
> something, it gets changed in the next update. Got to love these guys!
>
> Tom Servinsky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Database for Piano Business
>
>
>> #1 & 2   T&C has colors...they don't call them flags.   When I finish an 
>> appointment...the next time I'm in the office I drag that contact in the 
>> calendar and change the date 1 year in advance...i.e. 2010.   I change 
>> the Group on the appointment box to Service Due (which I type in and it 
>> can be anything I want...filled in from there on)   Service Due has it's 
>> own color which is RED.   Usually I drag them into a Monday which is my 
>> main office day.   When that Monday comes around their appt is in Red and 
>> I know to call about the service due.   I don't send out mailings, but 
>> T&C can certainly do that by using the user labeled catagories with Jan 
>> through Dec. and 2010, 2011 etc.   You can click on the date and do a 
>> report...I never use it.   Alarms for every appointment is available.  I 
>> use them to alert me on my PDA that the next appointment is 1/2 hour 
>> away.
>> #3  There are many views available and the contact view alone can be 
>> used. How do you keep your service notes at the time of the appointment? 
>> That's what I use my Notes for...I have a Palm Tungsten which syncs to 
>> T&C.   Everything I enter at the customer is synced with the computer. 
>> I sure you have the same thing?
>> #4   Each contact has a link to Mapquest tab on the computer screen. 
>> Same thing one click.   Does your PDA have a picture of the map?   Do you 
>> carry a computer with you?   I have never tried to get a picture on my 
>> PDA...I know I can
>>
>> Basically, we all are use to what we use and are unwilling to take the 
>> time with a new program until we absolutely need too.   I absolutely 
>> needed to, about 5- 6 years ago.   I gave Outlook a long look and was 
>> using it until someone mentioned T&C on the List...never looked back.   I 
>> was sold on the dragging contacts into the different areas.
>>
>> David Ilvedson, RPT
>> Pacifica, CA  94044
>>
>> ----- Original message ----------------------------------------
>> From: "Al Guecia/AlliedPianoCraft" <AlliedPianoCraft at hotmail.com>
>> To: <dave at davispiano.com>, <pianotech at ptg.org>
>> Received: 3/4/2009 4:08:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Database for Piano Business
>>
>>
>>>Dave, maybe it's the way I use Outlook.
>>
>>>1, I set up my clients into 3 categories, a) Red Flag: customers who tune 
>>>on
>>>a regular basis, b) Grey flag: Customers who are overdue. c) No Flag:
>>>Customer who are over 1 year overdue. I can also make a note on the flag 
>>>as
>>>to the tuning interval I want to set up. (3 months, 4 months, 6 months,
>>>etc.)
>>
>>>2, I set up an alarm for when the next tuning is due. No need to use the
>>>calendar to set up reminders. Each month on the first (that's the way I 
>>>set
>>>it up) my alarm comes up with all the customers that are due to be tuned
>>>that month.
>>
>>>3, All my customer information is on one page. No need to go into the 
>>>"note"
>>>portion.
>>
>>>4, I hit one button and it take me to MS Maps and Directions with the
>>>customers address already entered for directions.
>>
>>>I guess Outlook works better for my style of setup. I couldn't get T & C 
>>>to
>>>do that.
>>
>>>Al
>>
>>
>>
>>>--------------------------------------------------
>>>From: "Dave Davis" <dave at davispiano.com>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:32 PM
>>>To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Database for Piano Business
>>
>>>> Al,
>>>>
>>>> I found that T&C is much more powerful and user-friendly than Outlook. 
>>>> Not
>>>> sure why it doesn't appear so to you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Dave Davis
>>>> Davis Piano Service
>>>> 425-226-0102
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "Al Guecia/AlliedPianoCraft" <AlliedPianoCraft at hotmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:14:49
>>>> To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Database for Piano Business
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I downloaded a trial version of T&C and worked with it a while. It 
>>>> really
>>>> can't do what my MS Outlook can do and it if can, it's beyond my 
>>>> expertise
>>>> to get it to do what I want. I'm sticking with my Outlook.
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Mike Spalding" <mike.spalding1 at verizon.net>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:31 PM
>>>> To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Database for Piano Business
>>>>
>>>>> PTBiz will export customer data only, via the "Mailmerge" function. 
>>>>> If
>>>>> you try to open your PTBiz data with Microsoft Access, you will see a
>>>>> list
>>>>> of about 20 files, but the only one you can open is Mailmerge.
>>>>> Apparently
>>>>> the developer did something to make the others inaccessible.  If some
>>>>> database wiz out there could figure out how to unlock all of the 
>>>>> files,
>>>>> we
>>>>> could use Access to address the features we want, or to export all of 
>>>>> the
>>>>> data to some other software.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Formsma wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Ron Nossaman <rnossaman at cox.net
>>>>>> <mailto:rnossaman at cox.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I have a couple of questions. Can PTBiz export a comma delimited
>>>>>>     file of your database?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PTBiz will export a great deal of the data, but not all. It's been a
>>>>>> while, but I think it will export everything but the piano data,
>>>>>> invoicing, and the accounting. In other words, it exports customer
>>>>>> information but not piano information.  So, you're not totally out of
>>>>>> luck -- just have to reenter piano data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> JF
>>>>>
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>>>>
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