[pianotech] Oversized tuning pins

[David Ilvedson]

Going  up 2 sizes..."just to be on the safe side"...'-[

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044

----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "Al Guecia/AlliedPianoCraft" <AlliedPianoCraft at hotmail.com>
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Received: 11/29/2009 8:31:18 AM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Oversized tuning pins


>Scott,

>Yes, that's one of the possible causes, but there are others.
>Removing the old pins and creating to much heat (burning the hole). New 
>tuning pins to large. And I'm sure there are hacks out there that can screw 
>it up in other ways.

>Al


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>From: "Scott Helms, RPT" <tuner at helmsmusic.net>
>Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:05 AM
>To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Oversized tuning pins

>> I have been told that the reason restrung pianos have this issue is that
>> whoever restrung it didn't ream the holes in the pinblock before driving
>> in the new pins. Does anybody know if that's true? Just curious.
>>
>> Scott
>> ------
>> Scott A. Helms, Registered Piano Technician
>> 480-818-3871
>> www.helmsmusic.net
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>>> Actually, I had a situation like this 6 or 7 years ago on a restrung
>>> Steinway O that was completely untunable. I did the basically same thing
>>> except I lowered tension, popped out the beckets and backed all the pins
>>> out with a drill. Then replaced the beckets and drove the pins down to
>>> their original height. They all tuned very nicely afterwards and it only
>>> took about 4 hours total. Of course there was a follow up tuning later
>>> in the week....
>>>
>>> --Dave
>>>   New Orleans
>>>
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>>>
>>> David Ilvedson wrote:
>>>> Well, that has never worked for me...but then I didn't do it for 7
>>>> hours!   Jeez...
>>>>
>>>> David Ilvedson, RPT
>>>> Pacifica, CA  94044
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original message ----------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Leslie Bartlett" <l-bartlett at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>>>> Received: 11/27/2009 7:21:45 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Oversized tuning pins
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have a church client which (who?) purchased a 9-foot Shigeru, and two
>>>>> Estonias.  One of the Estonias was so bad that every pin popped, and I
>>>>> finally told them it was un-tunable. Short story....  I told them I
>>>>> thought
>>>>> I could fix it, so called the guys from whom they got it and was to
>>>>> have a
>>>>> shot. Seven hours later jerking pins back and forth, there were only
>>>>> about
>>>>> two pins popping and the rest just quite tight.
>>>>> les Bartlett Piano Service
>>>
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