Depends on the machine. A VT calculates it automatically by measuring each note that you are tuning and if in pitch raise mode gives you a target based on your programming. The SAT you have to take periodic measurements as you are going, say every 5th or octave or so. The RCT calculates the average based on the last five notes tuned (trailing average). Whichever way the ETD's do a pretty good job of figuring out the required overpull and giving you a target. The standard overpull settings will vary depending on which part of the piano you are talking about. The 38% overpull is a standard of the VT for the treble but I think it's a bit too much and you can customize it. The SAT III has as 25% setting and a 32% (or something like that) and you can choose which one to use depending on which part of the piano and what type of piano (they vary). I'm not sure what the RCT settings are. David Love www.davidlovepianos.com -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ron Nossaman Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:34 PM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Raising rates in recession Terry Farrell wrote: > Correct on the overpull. But I find that medium and larger sized pianos > require somewhere in the range of 38% overpull. This guy said the piano > was a semitone flat. When you pull up the pitch starting from A0, that > will cause the strings toward the treble to drop in pitch. As the pitch > raise proceeds through the tenor to the treble, I would expect that the > next note in the treble would be 130, 140 or so cents flat, and > requiring something approximating a 50 or 60 cent overpull. Every piano > is different, of course. I'm told over and over that ETDs calculate this stuff automatically, so the poor backward aural tuner doesn't have to guess on pitch raises. Accurate one pass pitch raises is one of the primary leverage points for ETD use, isn't it? Ron N
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