[pianotech] Fw: strings breaking/ Nordheimer

Carl Teplitski koko99 at shaw.ca
Thu Nov 18 20:06:12 MST 2010


Thanks for your input re. breaking strings.  Appears that most of the breakeage is in the wrapped strings,
but apparently there is at least one plain wire also broken.  I'm a little leery about getting involved .
Sounds like you may have the answer I was looking for, and it's  the manner of play that's causing the 
breakeage.      Changing to different strings would likely produce a different tone than the originals.  

Appreciate all the thought you put into your answer .

Thanks again.

Carl / Winnipeg.


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Delwin D Fandrich 
  To: pianotech at ptg.org 
  Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [pianotech] Fw: strings breaking/ Nordheimer


  Which strings are breaking? Plain steel tenor and treble strings or wrapped strings? If it is the plain steel strings then what kind of wire is used? Mapes wire is just a bit tougher than Roslau (and, probably, Chinese-made wires). If wrapped strings are breaking you might want to find out what the scaling is like. How close is the design tension to the breaking point of the core wire. Check the termination points; if it is the treble strings that are breaking what does the V-bar look like? If it is too sharp this can aggravate string stress. (This is not likely, though.) Also check the hammers; hard and/or flattened hammers will stress the strings more than softer, more resilient hammers. 

   

  About technique-there are some pianists whose playing style or technique simply breaks strings. This is not how pianos were intended to be played. The instrument is a pianoforte not just a forte. If the pianist cannot get this through his/her head and correct their playing style accordingly then they should be prepared to continually replace the strings that break. It's much the same as the car driver who rides the breaks-the brake pads are going to need replacing frequently and it's not the car's fault. Or the driver who lays rubber each time he/she takes off from a stop light-tires are going to wear out faster and it's not the tire's fault. This is the price you pay for treating your car badly. Frequently replacing broken strings are the price the pianist pays for abusing his/her piano. 

   

  ddf

   

  Delwin D Fandrich

  Piano Design & Fabrication

  620 South Tower Avenue

  Centralia, Washington 98531 USA

  del at fandrichpiano.com

  ddfandrich at gmail.com
  Phone  360.736.7563

   

  From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Carl Teplitski
  Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:01 PM
  To: Pianotechlist
  Subject: [pianotech] Fw: strings breaking/ Nordheimer

   

   

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Carl Teplitski 

  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2010 9:39 PM

  Subject: strings breaking/ Nordheimer

   

  Propective client called requesting info. re. replacing broken strings.

  Piano purchased from local dealer,( 8years ) and when client complained about

  broken strings, dealer replaced, and also replaced a second time. Has

  now told the client that they are now on their own.  Apparently, the son

  of the client is a big fellow, and client confesses that he playes quite hard. 

  He called me in the hopes that I would be able to solve the problem, by

  replacing with different type strings, thinking that the Nordhiemer replacements

  are breaking for the same reason the originals did.  I told client that I know the 

  dealer, and consider him an honorable fellow, and probably thinks that the

  problem lies with the player.  Of course, I really don't know why the strings

  break, and have not seen the piano yet.  Seeing it , doesn't mean I will have the 

  answer.    If I do get involved, I will send the broken samples to a supplier, and hope

  we can get appropriate replacements.    Wondering how others handle a problem such as this.

   

  ???????????

   

  Carl / Winnipeg  
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