[pianotech] plate finishing

[Encore Pianos]

Jon Page submitted this some time ago, and praised it.  I made some notes
and stored them, but have not bought this tool yet.  Here it is (hope you
don't mind, Jon):

 

I have been using a fluid writing pen:

http://www.dickblick.com/zz649/11/

 

with water-based black acrylic paint, thin size for outline, thick for
fill-in.

 

Gild the plate and spray clear finish coat, touching the plate will cause
oxidation down the line. It is not advisable to apply a lacquer topcoat over
water based products, they are not compatible. It might lift them off or
cause them to crackle, been there, done that.

 

Applying to clear coat, the water based material can be wiped off if a
mistake is made without compromising the gilded surface. I used to use black
lacquer and there was no such thing as a small mistake. The gloss black
acrylic does not need a top coat.

 

Application is a bit pains-taking for a primo job. Outline first. 

Apply the left edge on all characters and the top. Go back and do the right
edge and the bottom. Go back and fill in.

If you try to do the entire character all at once it can pool too thick and
run. A neater, faster job is accomplished with outlining first. Heck, if you
have a real steady hand you can leave the treble logo on S&S's as outline
characters just as original.  I can't :-(

 

These fluid writing pens produce sharp, clean characters, better than a
brush; especially for us untrained calligraphers.  - Jon Page

Kemper Fluid Writer Pen

 

This tool is ideal for fabric painting, drawings, signing artwork, making
perfectly consistent dots, line-art, and French matting. You can use this
pen with acrylic paints, watercolors, oils, or ink.

Thin the paint to a watery consistency. Fill the pen using your brush tip
loaded with paint. Hold it like a pen and draw evenly over the surface,
allowing the paint to glide gently.

Clean the pen thoroughly after each use with the enclosed cleaning plunger
and soap and water. 

 



 

Will Truitt (as unauthorized agent for Jon Page  J)

 

 

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of David Love
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:16 AM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] plate finishing

 

Thank you.  That's what I was looking for.

 

David Love

www.davidlovepianos.com

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Nicholas Gravagne
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:56 AM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] plate finishing

 

RE Paint pens:

Go to http://www.dickblick.com/products/elmers-painters-paint-markers/
<http://www.dickblick.com/products/elmers-painters-paint-markers/%20> 

Elmer's Paint Pens #21312-2002 Medium tip Black and #21312-2005 Fine tip,
$3.88 each. See in middle portion of web page.

I believe that I learned of these from someone on this list a few years ago.
Anyway, they work great and if you make a mistake clean up is easy with a
rag, no solvents or special cleaners. One thing, though; use pens prior to
top clear coat, but "rough up" the raised plate letters with a rag or the
paint will bead up as you apply it. Just rub the rag over the letters to
break the glaze of your last lacquer coat, then all works fine. Final top
coat does not cause the markings to smear or run.

 NG




On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Encore Pianos <encorepianos at metrocast.net>
wrote:

They are not, Thump.  Buy and try, then select what works best.  

 

Will Truitt

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Euphonious Thumpe
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:29 AM


To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] plate finishing

 

Don't remember the brand. Probably all about the same.

 

Euphonious Thumpe

From: David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
To: pianotech at ptg.org 
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] plate finishing

 

I kind of figured the color.  What type of pen.  

 

David Love

www.davidlovepianos.com

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Euphonious Thumpe
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 6:39 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] plate finishing

 

>From art supply stores. Gloss-black, available in several tip types.

 

Euphonious Thumpe

From: David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
To: pianotech at ptg.org 
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] plate finishing

 

Which paint pens do you use

 

David Love

www.davidlovepianos.com

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Euphonious Thumpe
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 6:07 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] plate finishing

 

I don't know about Will, but the paint pens I use have paint in them that
would be disturbed by the solvents in a  top coat.

 

Euphonious Thumpe

From: "chrisstor at aol.com" <chrisstor at aol.com>
To: pianotech at ptg.org 
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:43 PM
Subject: [pianotech] plate finishing

 

Will, 

 

Just to be clear, do you do your plate lettering just before the final coat
of clear?

 

Chris S.

 

 

 




-- 
Nick Gravagne, RPT
AST Mechanical Engineering

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