Verdigris

David M. Porritt dm.porritt@verizon.net
Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:37:54 -0500


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>Good luck with your experiments.  Oh by the way, Fred indicated that 
>the flange is cleansed/sized and it has to be wood grain alcohol in the 
>form of bourbon to do the job correctly.

Tim:

I hope Wild Turkey doesn't have any wood alcohol (Methanol) as it will make you blind first, then dead.

dave 


>Tim Coates
>University of South Dakota

>On Aug 11, 2004, at 9:08 AM, James Ellis wrote:

>> Tim Coates seems to think some of us are being "uppedy".  I disagree.  
>> The
>> question was about remedies for verdigris, and other than a few jokes 
>> about
>> Wild Turkey, that's what the answers were about.  Tim also credited the
>> "List" with considering 25 years as "permanent".  No, that didn't come 
>> from
>> the list, that was my remark when I said I did not consider 25 years 
>> to be
>> "temporary".
>>
>> Other than a few unfortunate jokes, I think the responses came straight
>> from the experiences of those who responded.  I know mine did, and I 
>> was
>> not trying to be "uppedy".  I have had complete success with new parts,
>> good success with re-bushing and re-pinning, and very poor success with
>> solvents and/or lubricants.  It has come to the place where I will not 
>> put
>> any liquid into a bushing that will not completely evaporate - and 
>> that's
>> why I use pure grain alcohol and distilled water for shrinking.
>>
>> I know what Tim is saying, and I raise this question.   Tim, do you 
>> know
>> for a fact that the problem was really verdigris, and not something 
>> else?
>> Now, as for the "Wild Turkey".  I think some were too quick to pass 
>> this
>> off in a joking manner.  As I recall, this stuff is charcoal filtered 
>> and
>> aged in charcoal casks.  Charcoal is mostly carbon, right?  And so it
>> graphite, which we all know is a darned good dry lubricant.  So, 
>> what's in
>> the Wild Turkey that's going to be left behind when the alcohol and 
>> water
>> evaporate?  I'm sure you follow me.  Is it going to be some sort of dry
>> lubricant, or some sort of goo, or what?  We know something is going 
>> to be
>> left behind, because that stuff is not a clear liquid.  It does have 
>> some
>> color.  What about good old Tennessee Jack Daniels?  That's worth a 
>> try too.
>>
>> I think my next little research project will be to visit the 
>> neighborhood
>> liquor store, buy some samples, put some samples out in a clean glass 
>> dish,
>> let it evaporate, and see what kind of stuff is left behind.  I'll let 
>> you
>> know later.
>>
>> Will you settle for that, Tim?
>>
>> Jim Ellis
>>
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