---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hi, Ed, At 02:54 PM 12/4/2004, you wrote: >Horace- > >Wasn't it Arnold Schoenberg who said that an ideal musical instrument >should be "something like a typewriter that plays pitches?" Yup....too bad he died before his dream could be fully realized... Best. Horace > >Ed Sutton ;-( > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:hgreeley@stanford.edu>Horace Greeley >To: <mailto:caut@ptg.org>College and University Technicians >Sent: 12/4/2004 4:34:45 PM >Subject: RE: [CAUT] Fw: mystery center pinning > > >Vince, > >At 11:08 AM 12/4/2004, you wrote: >>How are you supposed to regulate the action with next to zero friction in >>those shanks and flanges? > >Putting on my flame suit... > >The same way you have had to regulate them since they screwed around with >the backchecks in the mid - late 80's, and the voicing since not long >after that...that is, with a smaller and smaller range and domain of >control and usability...which is, of course, just fine, so long as >everyone who plays the instrument is largely interested in the keys as >on/off switches, with smaller usable dynamic range and decreased tonal >pallette... > >not, of course, that I have any opinions on the subject... > >Best. > >Horace > > > >>Kent Webb <kw88keys@yahoo.com> wrote: >>Hello All, >>It's not often I get a chance to view the list but I >>did see this post and can confirm what Ed wrote. The >>S&S spec for center pins torque is 1-4 grams but I >>have seen many sets work fine at less than one gram. >>Like many of you, I was accustomed to a higher torque >>(more like 4-6 grams) but S&S uses a dense felt with a >>teflon extender that enables very low friction while >>maintaining a firm control. A great advantage of this >>is accelerated up-weight and, from my expereince, when >>many pianists say they want a lighter touch they are >>really trying to tell us they want the keys to stay >>with their fingers as they lift from the keys. The >>higher the upweight, the faster the key will stay with >>thier fingers on the return to full at-rest position. >>Hope this helps. >>Kent Webb >>--- Ed Sutton wrote: >> > I believe what you have are parts behaving according >> > to current genuine Steinway factory standards, i.e. >> > "swing as many times as possible as long as there is >> > no wobble side to side." >> > Others of greater authority than I will either >> > confirm or demolish this statement. >> > >> > Ed S. >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Barbara Richmond >> > To: College and University Technicians >> > Sent: 12/3/2004 11:17:25 PM >> > Subject: [CAUT] Fw: mystery center pinning >> > >> > >> > Yet another question, folks, >> > >> > I had to repin all the Steinway shanks I recently >> > installed. When they came, they were the best >> > examples of perpetual motion machines I had ever >> > seen. Well, golly, almost all of them have loosened >> > up again!--not to their original state, but much >> > looser than I find acceptable. (The p! iano got used a >> > couple of times while work was in progress.) Dang, >> > I've never had this happen before---am I in the >> > twilight zone? I couldn't believe my eyes. Would >> > shrinking the cloth help before I pin....again? I >> > do have plenty of high quality bushing cloth on >> > hand.......groan. >> > >> > Also, I was surprised the first time I repinned to >> > find that the center pins were all .052. That >> > seemed sort of big for original pinning. I replaced >> > them with .053. Now I feel like I'm going to end up >> > using telephone poles to get them right. Here I >> > thought I was almost done with this job and now >> > this...... :-( >> > >> > Help! >> > >> > Barbara Richmond, RPT >>_______________________________________________ >>caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> >> >>Vince Mrykalo >>University of Utah >> >> >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. >><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=29917/*http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250>Learn >>more. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/6d/52/a8/ba/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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