[CAUT] Piano Horse

[Rick Florence]

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Yeah, but I remember repairing a few lyres after their moves.  Movers are
rarely around to see the consequences of moving on an unstabilized lyre.
The QRS tool makes a huge difference.

Rick


on 2/27/06 12:05 PM, Jim Busby at jim_busby@byu.edu wrote:

I=B9ll add my =B3amen=B2 to that blasphemy, Rick.

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Barrus movers are Utah=B9s #1 movers and they told me they ALWAYS move with
the lyre and have never had a mishap in over 35 years! We have a piano hors=
e
and rarely use it because of the space needed to do it. Besides, it always
feels like it=B9s ready to slip out=8A

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Jim Busby=20

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From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Rick
Florence
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:39 AM
To: College and University Technicians
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Piano Horse
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List,

So now that I've seen a few variations of extra moving equipment that is
either large and cumbersome and/or expensive,  I'll offer my suggestion...

Simplify and use the lyre. (Blasphemy!!!!!!)

Not long ago I cursed movers who used the lyre.  I have repaired too many
over the years to accept the movers'  claims of no damage.  I soon came to
the conclusion, however, that I would rather repair a lyre than my back.
After seeing the Grand Lyre Stabilizer in the QRS catalogue, I decided to
order one for ASU and try it out.  3 years later I still have not broken a
lyre, or had to repair a glue joint.  Now I only curse movers who use an
unstabilized lyre.

If you must do the moving yourself, the less equipment to lug around, the
better.  Our moving equipment consists of a straight wheeled dolly, the
stabilizer bar, an old tire tube (stem removed) to hold the lid and
fallboard in place, and whatever tool we need to remove the leg(s).
Tipping directly on to a dolly (as opposed to a skid board) reduces the
angle on the rear leg and lyre and reduces the required lifting at the
bottom where you're most likely to injure your back.

I have done moves myself, but almost always do it with help.  A grand on
it's side is a pretty risky move with just one person.  If the university i=
s
concerned about risk, I would ask them which is more risky, having the
correct number of people moving a 600-900 lb. piano, or waiting for the day
when the piano falls on you or someone else as you attempt to do a two man
job with one person.  If your administrator doesn't seem to care, a quick
call to your campus OSHA representative will get things moving (pun
intended).

Happy moving,

Rick



on 2/27/06 9:30 AM, Andrew Anderson at andrew@andersonmusic.com wrote:

David I made one much like Brad's.  Only wider and with jacking tops on bot=
h
of them.  I clamp the skid to the piano set the tilter with/without blocks
to set on the floor or on dollys.

Mine is way too heavy though.  I'm looking to have one engineered out of
steel.

Andrew Anderson


At 09:23 AM 2/27/2006, you wrote:

Brad,

Now if you had another one that was configured to turn it over onto a dolly
(for when you're actually moving the piano not storing it in the
corner)...that would be even nicer...no one likes to deadlift the end of th=
e
board to install a dolly...;-]

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, California






Original message
From: "Brad Smith, RPT"
To: "College and University Technicians"
Received: 2/27/2006 1:43:24 AM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Piano Horse

Hi All,=20
Here is a link to my solution for this:
http://www.smithpiano.com/shop/


On 2/26/06, Rob & Helen Goodale <rrg@unlv.nevada.edu> wrote:
Hello,
Thanks for all the great responses.  Is there somewhere on-line that I can
see a picture of the "piano horse"?

Rob Goodale, RPT
Las Vegas, NV





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Rick Florence
Senior Piano Technician
Arizona State University, School of Music



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Rick Florence
Senior Piano Technician
Arizona State University, School of Music


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