[CAUT] CAUT credential vs. academic program?

[Richard Brekne]

Not much to add to your last two posts Israel except an encouraging  
"Amen".  Funny how hard it can be to see ones self in the mirror 
sometimes and how easy it is for others to see you staring right at 
yourself think'n all along you are pointing your accusing finger at 
someone else.  Too bad to see so much good experience and knowledge get 
lost in a wash of bitterness against whatever it was whenever it was 
that pushed whichever button once too often.  Irony is... an awful lot 
of bad educators are bad because they have stumbled into this same 
pitfall. We've all had more then our share of poor teachers.  Most of us 
at some point manage to look past these experiences and find what is 
positive in the education system and draw on it.  Learning to learn is 
unfortunately one of the more difficult chores we are tasked with in 
life. And tho it is true there are many paths to take, it is equally 
true that the more of these you close off the longer your own road becomes.

Still, it is gratifying to note this time around that rational and 
reflected posts have very much more then held their own.  A decent 
education shortens the learning path far far more often then it 
lengthens it. Kinda goes without saying really. 

Cheers
RicB


     > Most (not all) of the stuff I hear and read from some of these "self
     > taught" guys (and Mr. N is one of the worst in that regard)  suffers
     > precisely from this lack of varied perspective. They see things
    from one
     > pair of eyes - their own. Never engaging in the give-and-take that a
     > true student/teacher relationship is based on, from which both
    learn.
     > Perhaps that's why some of these folks have such a jaundiced view
    of the
     > educational establishment - they seem to universalize their own
     > miserable experience which may have been caused in part by their own
     > unwillingness to perhaps listen to someone else's voice but their
    own...
     >
     > Israel Stein


        I see that I've missed out. Had you been around to guide and
        inform me throughout my miserable mislead life, I might have
        eventually learned something worthwhile and become
        knowledgeable and competent at what I do. Pity it's too late
        for me to take up the Stein way of thinking at this point. I'm
        already ruined by too many rational cause and effect connections.

        And I still have met more than a few people who became quite
        accomplished musicians without formal instruction of any kind,
        which is what this was all about.

        Ron N

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