[CAUT] CAUT credential vs. academic program?

[John Ross]

I didn't say learn from my own mistakes.
I said the first person, learned from his own mistakes.
Then he instructed people, so they wouldn't make the same mistakes he did.
Not meaning any particular person.
Just that in the beginning, there were no instructors.

John M. Ross
Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Brekne" <ricb at pianostemmer.no>
To: <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 7:16 PM
Subject: [CAUT] CAUT credential vs. academic program?


> Hi John.
> 
> I'd have to ask what good does it do to learn from your own mistakes... 
> try and pass on how to not make the same mistakes... only to be met with 
> this attitude against learning from the resulting educational system ?  
> I'd submit we end up spending too much time re-inventing the wheel if we 
> accept all this.
> 
> As said before several times now... we all KNOW that credentials dont 
> make the man (to use your expression).  The flaws in the world of 
> credentials however do not constitute a good enough reason for rejecting 
> them entirely. We dont just decide on a kind of intellectual anarchy 
> because a few of the protocols in use go bad.
> 
> Fact is... MOST folks who are accredited with this or that or the other 
> represent a valuable knowledge resource to anyone clever enough to know 
> how to access them.  Some are easier to open up then others... but 
> hey... lifes a bitch and then you die... just how much do we have a 
> right to expect of others anyways eh ??
> 
> 
> Cheers
> RicB
> 
>    It seems to me, that the first people in a field, would have to be
>    self-taught. They learned by their mistakes. What they passed on,
>    was don't make the same mistakes, that had already been  made.
> 
>    Some academics to a very poor job, of imparting their knowledge,
>    and  unfortunately, their pay-scales are determined by the courses
>    they passed, and not their ability to impart the knowledge
>    successfully. Some teacher/instructors couldn't teach their way out
>    of a wet paper bag.  But they do have the credentials. Credentials
>    do NOT the man make.
> 
>    John M. Ross
>    Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
>