[CAUT] well tempered

[Chris Solliday]

thanks Lawrence and yes someone has covered it and I have succeeded as you
suggested.
Chris
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Becker, Lawrence (beckerlr)" <BECKERLR at ucmail.uc.edu>
To: "College and University Technicians" <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] well tempered


> Chris-
>
> I'm sorry I didn't catch this thread earlier.  In case no one else has
> told you this by now, the newer SATs are set up for you to enter custom
> non-equal temperaments.  You enter one octave's worth of offsets (1
> offset per note) then can apply this with a saved tuning.  Check with
> the Sandersons or slog through the manual--it's been several years since
> I did this with an SAT, but it's not too hard, and it's automatic, after
> being properly stored.
>
> Lawrence
>
> Lawrence Becker, RPT
> Piano Technician
> College-Conservatory of Music
> University of Cincinnati
> -----Original Message-----
> From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of
> Chris Solliday
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 10:31 AM
> To: College and University Technicians
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] well tempered
>
> Thanks for replying Ric, I agree for good or bad the myst seems to be
> rising. Can you help with one simple issue? Are the ETD "deviations from
> equal temperament" given by Lehman for A49 up to G#60 or for what I
> might
> call the "temperament octave" below that, beginning with A37 up to G#48.
> Does it matter? It seems to me it must. I find this further confusing
> because Lehman's indications are centered around middle C40 rather than
> the
> C52 fork most tuners use. Maybe I'm over-thinking this but I'd really
> just
> like to get this tuning done and then reread my Jorgensen Tuning book at
> the
> beach over the summer :>)
> Thanks for any further insight,
> Chris of the ET Clan
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Brekne" <ricb at pianostemmer.no>
> To: <caut at ptg.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 5:07 AM
> Subject: [CAUT] well tempered
>
>
> > Hi Chris
> >
> > Ear instructions are at :  I suggest starting with the ear version so
> as
> > to get aurally in touch with the tuning from the get go.
> > http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bpl/larips/Bach-by-ear-062905.pdf
> >
> > The ETD instructions given by Lehman himself are below: This is for an
> > ETD without any historical temperaments already loaded.  He has
> another
> > version for manipulating the Vallotti setting.... but this perhaps
> gives
> > you a better view of how it diverges from ET.
> >
> > Try it.. you like it... and on that note... it might be a good idea
> for
> > tuners to get this both aurally and ETD wise in their routines... this
> > has all the looks of becoming the latest mystical fad in tuning ....
> > I've already had a few very off the wall comments about this
> temperament
> > from pianists who up to a couple years ago had absolutely no interest
> or
> > understanding in the temperament world.  They still evidently have no
> > direct understanding... but their interest is peaked (for the moment
> > anyways) and as these things usually go... their <<intuitive>>
> > understanding is rapidly developing :)
> >
> > Cheers
> > RicB
> >
> >
> >     * Tune A exactly to its equal-temperament position.
> >     * Tune B exactly to its equal-temperament position.
> >     * Tune E pure to B, and check that it is 2 cents low (from the
> > prescribed equal-temperament position) on your device.
> >     * Tune D 2 cents higher than its equal-temperament position.
> >     * Tune G 4 cents higher than its equal-temperament position.
> >     * Tune C 6 cents higher than its equal-temperament position.
> >     * Tune F 8 cents higher than its equal-temperament position.
> >     * Tune C#, G#, Eb, and Bb each 4 cents higher than its
> > equal-temperament position.
> >     * Tune F# pure to both C# and B, i.e. 2 cents higher than its
> > equal-temperament position.
> >     * Check everything by ear: E-B-F#-C# pure 5ths, C#-G#-D#-A# 5ths
> > with only the slightest wobble, and F-C-G-D-A-E 5ths with a bit more
> > wobble.
>
>