[CAUT] beginning luck

[Brent Fischer]

Dale, so I hit send before finishing, but I think it's time to movetowards a progressive center of these discussions, about whereredesign fits into the institutional setting without compromisingcertain Steinway tonal standards. I can't imagine any dialog  betweena tech and rebuilder/re-designer that doesn't include " I will re-design this because my science is better than their experience."  In the context of support I think the attitude should bend towards how can my design work compliment the factory without alienatingthe core tonal expectations that will exist on stage for the foreseeable future.  That's the model of collaboration I believe is a workable venue that will also in the end not jeopardize anyone's job, either employed tech or rebuilder trying to promote a quality project.
     What working towards the center for mutual gain means to me would be for example,  introducing a re-designed Steinway intoa smaller recital setting, perhaps meant for more ensemble work thatwould promote clarity and projection with a palette of color notusually heard in the larger hall needing an edge. That's the disconnect I am talking about here that I have yet to read overthe past weeks including the premise that your redesign shouldbe within some tolerance of the norm without the ego that says "this is the best I've ever heard." Ya, I would say there's some bias when it sounds like a few are linked into " A Legend in my own Mind.com." How about joining forces with tradition to improve clarity, sustain, and power without taking credit for re-inventing the wheel, just improving on it?
Brent
--- On Sun, 2/27/11, Dale Erwin <erwinspiano at aol.com> wrote:

From: Dale Erwin <erwinspiano at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CAUT] beginning luck
To: caut at ptg.org
Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 9:02 PM



  Hey Brent

 Disconnect? What disconnect?  

 I guess I missed that one . So, (this designer/re-designer of a variety of types of board structures),..... was too busy working at the college.

 Am I pickin up some continuous undercurrent of bias.?






 






Dale S. Erwin


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-----Original Message-----


From: Brent Fischer <brent.fischer at yahoo.com>


To: caut at ptg.org


Sent: Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:26 pm


Subject: Re: [CAUT] beginning luck














Hey Fred,








   It's ironic to me that the same disconnect between "re-designers" and



institutions parallels in much the same way as the Steinway lack of



technical follow up after an "All-Steinway" school has paid a million



for the designation

Brent 



























--- On Sun, 2/27/11, Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu> wrote:





From: Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu>


Subject: Re: [CAUT] beginning luck


To: caut at ptg.org


Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 2:20 PM







On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Brent Fischer wrote:





>  secondly get to Steinway


> factory sessions often and mostly get to their C&A training in the
 basement


> and come away with their endorsement of your work, and leave your


> electronic tuning aid at home when you go.








Hi Brent,


    I think the C & A training (if you mean the final of the four regular one-week sessions) has changed quite a bit since you went. A couple years ago when I went, there were four of us in the usual room, and the only real difference between it and the "tone regulation" session was that we had Bs and Ds instead of smaller pianos. No work in the basement. I was disappointed, as I had heard there would only be two students, and there would be some work with the C & A guys, maybe in the basement. Of course, since then Kent Webb has taken over the "Academy" so it might have changed again.


    No need to leave the ETD behind, in fact better not to, as tuning was done by all four simultaneously, with only flimsy doors dividing us. Oh, and "their endorsement of
 your work" is at best informal. It is made clear that you are not certified by Steinway, though I did actually get a certificate for the last session. But it said something like "attended the concert prep session," not even weak wording like "completed." Obviously you can let people know you did the training, but you are not supposed to imply anything beyond that. The world changes.


Regards,


Fred Sturm


University of New Mexico


fssturm at unm.edu


























      



 






      
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