Business Software Responses Gateway correction

James Grebe pianoman@inlink.com
Sun, 25 Oct 1998 18:51:29 -0600


Make that January, 1987!
James Grebe
R.P.T. of the P.T.G
pianoman@inlink.com
Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups and Practical Piano Peripherals in
St. Louis, MO
-----Original Message-----
From: James Grebe <pianoman@inlink.com>
To: pianotech@ptg.org <pianotech@ptg.org>
Date: Sunday, October 25, 1998 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: Business Software Responses Gateway


>Hi Jory,
>I have a Gateway tower 200megHz  with Crystal Scan 17" monitor since Jan,
>98.  Absolutely no problems whateso ever
>James Grebe
>R.P.T. of the P.T.G
>pianoman@inlink.com
>Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups and Practical Piano Peripherals in
>St. Louis, MO
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jory A. Olson <jory@teleport.com>
>To: 'pianotech@ptg.org' <pianotech@ptg.org>
>Date: Sunday, October 25, 1998 2:02 PM
>Subject: Business Software Responses
>
>
>>Dave, I think you're comparing the Dell consumer line to the Gateway
>professional line.  If you're buying a 400 or 450 MHz machine, both Gateway
>and Dell will have what you're calling non-integrated solutions.
>>
>>About a year ago I purchased a new Dell D300 for $3500 (128 Meg RAM, 8.4
>Gbyte hard disk, Internal ZIP drive, graphics acceleration, etc).  This
same
>system is now on sale at Dell for $1995.  With the high-technology industry
>in decline, Christmas coming, recent price reductions announced by Intel,
it
>is an excellent time to purchase a new computer if you happen to need one.
>This past week Intel announced a price reduction on some PII chips from
$270
>to $190.  Gateway and Dell, due to their "build-to-order" philosophy will
be
>the first to be able to take advantage of this price reduction.
>>
>>One thing I would warn everybody about.  Gateway systems, and their
>monitors in particular are not as reliable as Dell, Compaq, HP, etc.  My
>employer purchases Gateway systems.  I've been through no less than 4
>monitors in the past 5 years.  One went up in flames!  I would avoid
Gateway
>Crystal Scan monitors with a vengeance.  The Vivitron (Trinitron) Gateway
>monitors are better, but not great.  I would also avoid Gateway machines
>with the Western Digital disk drives.  In the electrical engineering
>department we had 6 out of 17 new systems crash with hard disk failures.
>Admittedly, engineering CAD programs can be hard on the disk drive, but
this
>is ridiculous.  See Consumer's Report latest computer ratings before you
>buy.  Their ratings mirror my experience closely.
>>
>>I could have got a Gateway system through my employer and they would have
>given me $500 to offset the cost.  I bought a Dell instead, because of the
>problems I've seen with the Gateway machines.  Another thing I dislike
about
>Gateway's is the Soundscape sound card.  Few of my video games work well
>with this card, and my MIDI keyboard doesn't like it much either.  My Dell
>system came with a Soundblaster sound card.  If you're using the soundcard
>for something other than beeps, and .WAV files, I suggest you consider an
>upgrade from the Soundscape card.
>>
>>I have no money invested in either company.  I work in the industry.  I
>personally bought a Dell and have been happy.
>>
>>The best "tip" I can give new computer buyer's is to buy more RAM than you
>think you'll need.  RAM is cheap and can partially offset slowness in the
>processor and disk drive.  If there's enough space to keep information in
>RAM then the computer doesn't have to go and get it off the disk drive.
>Since most programs a piano technicians uses are not computationally
>intensive, the biggest time savings comes from not having to go to disk for
>new information.  More memory also allows you to leave a bunch of programs
>up and running all the time so you can quickly switch between email, the
>web, word processing, and the football game.  I suggest 64 Mbytes as a
>minimum for a new system.  I also believe the new Universal Serial Bus
(USB)
>is a must on a system to intend to keep for 2-5 years.  In a few years the
>serial port, mouse port, parallel port, and such will be gone.
>>
>>One more tip....The new 400 and 450 machines have a 100 MHz internal bus.
>Older machines, regardless of the processor speed, had a 66 MHz internal
>bus.  This will make a HUGH difference (1/3 increase) in speed.  The PII
>machines of 300 MHz or more have the new Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP)
>interface for your video card.  If you enjoy video games you need AGP.
>>
>>Jory
>>_____________________
>>
>>
>>Larry,
>>
>>I believe in your first post you had mentioned purchasing a Dell computer.
>I thought I would at least throw another suggestion your way.  My wife is
>the head PC administrator for Seagate (the hard drive company) therefore
>giving me alot of "insider" information on companies, policies, quality and
>the like.  You may (just a suggestion) want to check out Gateway.  The
>primary difference between these two machines is the use of "integrated"
>boards.  Most of the PC's sold in retail outlets like Compac or HP use
>integrated boards...meaning that when wanting to upgrade or add
peripherials
>(sp?) it can be a difficult match as a result of the propriatory nature of
>the systems.  In some cases you won't have the luxury of going to a local
>"Best Buy" and purchasing additional RAM and plugging it in.  Gateway uses
>non-integrated boards allowing for lots of "plug and play" additions such
as
>video cards, soundblaster cards, scanners, etc.  The Gateways systems
>generally are configured with!
>> 1 asa slot and 4 pci slots, plus the RAM capabilities are great!
>>My current system is a 300mhz, 64 mg RAM (expandable to 364...that's alot
>of resident memory), 6.5 hard drive, 56k modem, soundblaster, 8 mg video
>card, scanner, sound system (extremely modified..JBL), laser printer and
Zip
>drive with CD.  This system can be upgraded with many more things as well
as
>2 more hard drives if desired.
>>Now you can obtain a 400 mhz or 450 mhz with even yet more capabilities
for
>the same price (actually lower than what I paid in March).
>>Like any tool used in our self employment venture, quality remains
>paramount.  Versatility, reliability, and craftsmanship must remain high
>priority regarding our decisions.
>>Just a thought...I wish you continued success.
>>Dave Swartz, RPT
>>dms2000@majesticpiano.com
>>
>



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