Hi all. Thanks for all who posted about me converting the Stieff piano. I really appreciate all the comments too, positive and negative. I get my pianotech in digest form, it is less confusing, and that is why I dont respond privately to every letter. I also found out that this brand of piano is very respected. But I do wonder about market value, since I picked this piano up for a song(I even played the song for them on a new Kawaii grand) from a piano dealer. I also got a nice and heavy Vose and sons with an unusual keybed from the same place for $50 I almost bought a chickering upright, but Chrissy said "that's enough for now"<grin> I don't doubt that either of these pianos are desirable, But uprights are VERY hard to sell here for some reason. Players go out the door as soon as I play the first roll it seems! I would like to explain something about myself to the group. I do not "chop up" or swap parts on pianos for the fun of it. I have limited funds to spend on these projects. More times than not, I end up with complete basket case pianos (most of the Fosters), free for the hauling, that the rebuilders either pronounce "dead" or not worth the effort to revive. It takes me long hard hours of labor and love before I can even play one note! I get a kick out of rebuilding what is considered absolute junk, and making a beautiful looking and sounding piano that works as good as the day it was built. Consider for a moment, why I drag a bunch of old Foster pianos home.(besides being crazy) This actually happened: One Foster has a big hole in the soundboard, and a cracked plate(a forklift driver error) The other Foster had been in the middle of a bad bar fight and the case and piano action looked like it had been on the front line in World war 2! I can still see the owners of these wrecks shaking their heads in disbelief knowing that some nut was willing to drive from Missouri and haul what was left away! See, I learned a long time ago the only way to become a experienced piano person was to get in deep in the cheaper pianos and rebuild them. I would not learn much by just tuning and regulating, or picking pianos that wasn't much of a challenge, I had to put myself in a situation that required me to think like the factory Neither piano was useable by itself. and would have met certain "death" If I hadn't went after them. Both had major damage. I would never part out a rebuildable piano, I happen to have three Fosters that I was able to rebuild and they sit here in the parlor, one with a pianomation. neither of these units have parts from other pianos, they were nice enough to be rebuildable. But back to the two destroyed pianos. We carefully took those two pianos apart right down the the frames. there were parts everywhere. basically, I had a Nice case with a ruined back, and a ruined case and piano action with a rebuildable back of the same brand, same scale. one was a player and the one I 'stole" the back from was a regular upright. Now I had to force myself to think like the factory and construct a new piano from what was useable. Chris and I learned much from the experience, The importance of the striking point, how the plate was bedded down, and how to set the correct keybed position, and how to prep and align a action /dampers to the strings. What we ended up with (after a years spare time) was a New looking Foster player piano that looked factory perfect, nothing 'rigged" anywhere. I think I am more proud of that piano than any we have. people who see it and play it, does not believe the story behind the piano, until they see the destroyed parts I have kept. When we were building this piano, folks called me a "butcher" and even worse at times. I guess that building one piano from two wrecks is just unheard of in this trade, that you can and should revive every unit, and somehow it is a 'sin" to swap parts. people who rebuild old cars do the same thing, and nobody is laughing. I can also understand why some in the group thinks that I am going to 'chop up' the stieff Most people just dont believe that you can convert a piano without ruining it, and that is exactly what usually happens every time such a conversion is attempted, people dont think ahead in such a project, or they just stick the pneumatic junk in without planning how the case is going to look. my approach to the Stieff is simply this, "dont change anything that can't be changed back" this feature can be designed right in if just a little planning is used! here is our goal of the Stieff, to construct a complete player piano with a QUALITY piano, that looks factory, works like it should, doesn't looked 'rigged or butchered" inside or out. I can see the looks on the faces of many a experienced piano person here thinking that I have totally lost my mind. Will I make money on this? probably not! but, It will expand my experience, and that is what I am after. Andy " a harp is a nude piano"<g>
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