> "NO" to that notion, and says one should tell the customer > "It will take three tunings, two weeks apart",Hi Les, I have always considered the an excuse to get extra money from a customer without mechanical or aesthetic justification. through a piano will not stay "perfectly" after a two or three tuning at one visit but the difference between the two is negligible at worst and non exist ant at best unless there is a mechanical problem (back separation, cracked plate type of thing) that would manifest itself during the first and second tuning. hat occurs during a pitch raise is stress is being exerted primarily on the plate struts and comparatively little on the soundboard and the wooden structure except as the plate needs to accommodate the compression on the struts and pulls the case along with it. To prove this the next time you are going to unstring a piano carefully measure the pitch of each note, remove the bass strings then remeasure each note. Plot the _differences_ and the graph will show that change from tension removal does not cross the middle / tenor break strut to any appreciable amount. Logic then dictates the compression is on the plate struts and not so much anywhere else. So one tuning to get the piano up to pitch and a second tuning to do a fine tuning. If the pitch raise is done properly then the piano will be in tunable condition for customer use immediately. There is essentially no difference between a "poor" and a "superior" piano in terms of pitch return. If you are using an ETD and tuning each note and unison as you go along then an increase of 25% will work well. If you do this aurally then the compensation is about 30%. What is good about an ETD is adjustments to variations of pitch change from section to section and in various locations in any one section. Such corrections are more difficult doing an aural tuning. There are exceptions to the above generalities and they are the ones that will come and a bite you in the backside and you will have no choice but to tune and piano a third time. Lester spinets, Whitneys, Baldwin grands and old Mason & Hamlins come to mind as opposites on the stability scale. Tightening the plate bolts and screws can be helpful for stability as well. Newton
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