Clean unisons/Super string

[Roger C Hayden]

I have two clients, both bachelors ??, that complain about the purity of
the fresh tuning, saying they like it better after they've pounded on it
for a week or two.  Because of my muting techniques, it is no problem
setting the last tuned string of each unison a tad off on the last pass. 
They seem much happier when it's done.  Each to his own.

Roger C. Hayden, RPT

On Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:23:27 +0000 Kristinn Leifsson
<istuner@islandia.is> writes:
> Hi,
> 
> Actually Jim, no matter what you do, there will always be a 
> quasi-hemi-demi-semi-quaver.
> Yes this IS a word, but I guess you know that Mr. Super String. ;)
> 
> I would not TRY to make it like that since clean unisons are what 
> "normal" 
> people very often use to determine a tuner´s competence.
> But to each his/her own.  If this customer would like a bar-room 
> Bösendorfer then you can offer to de-tune every other string.
> 
> The two things you have to do are:
> 
> 1. Charge a full tuning for the moral efforts you have to put into 
> work 
> like that.
> 2. Threaten them, that if they tell ANYBODY who did that tuning, you 
> will 
> tune every unison super clean thereafter. :)
> 
> 
> Bye,
> 
> Kristinn
> 
> P.S. Does anyone know who manufactures the Super Strings? :)
> 
> 
> 
> At 20:25 4.10.2000 -0400, you wrote:
> >In a message dated 10/04/2000 6:01:50 PM, Linda wrote:
> >
> ><<"I had a fun complaint on a tuning today, that it was too 
> clean.">>
> >
> >Linda;
> >Notes can't be "too clean".
> >But "clean" notes can be very lifeless.
> >A unison which is very very slightly off, perhaps on just one 
> string, will
> >have more presence and sustain than one which is 'dead on'. Played 
> one note
> >at a time this should be no problem but if the combinations of 
> notes, as in a
> >chord, are all 'dead on' than the overall perception of the chord 
> will
> >likewise be more Lifeless than a chord where all the notes were not 
> 'dead on'
> >but just a tiny-tiny bit out.
> >
> >  'WE' need to remember that what we listen to as tuners does not 
> needfully
> >relate
> >to what musicians hear when they play. Perceptions differ widely and
> >preferences are formed based on exposure. Witness the revival of 
> HTs, semi
> >Hts, and pseudo HTs as well as the altering of ET, on a selective 
> basis,
> >which are all becoming more 'normal' than just a few years ago.
> >
> >  Is this "too clean" a problem? not usually...unless you run into 
> someone 
> > who
> >objects to the "too clean" sound. This is similar to the problem of 
> a
> >customer who has not had their piano tuned in a looooong time and 
> then when
> >it is tuned complains that "it just doesn't sound right". :-(
> >
> >  Your customer is right, but so are you and you are to be 
> congratulated for
> >getting a piano tuned so well that the complaint is
> >of the "cleaness" (sic) of the tuning! :-) Put a litttttle 
> hemi-semi quaver
> >in some of the notes in question, satisfy your customer, yourself 
> and
> >remember that this technique, used judiciously, can be used to add 
> presence
> >to some future "dead" notes.........
> >Jim Bryant (FL)
> 

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