---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment In a message dated 1/3/01 3:56:13 AM Central Standard Time,=20 ramsey@extremezone.com (Kevin E. Ramsey) writes: Subject: Who invented....... .....Equal Temperament ? Was it=A0 Mersenne, JS Bach , Lanfranco , or someone else ? I'm not sure about this . Does anyone on the List know ? =A0 Duncan. =A0 > Well, according to Jorgensen,, the first person who actually described a=20 > detailed method of tuning in ET was William Braid White. Before that, a lo= t=20 > of people thought they were tuning in ET, but in reality, they were tuning= =20 > in something "approaching" ET. Most of the romantic era music was played=20 > and composed in a variant of well-temperaments. Ask Bill, or Ed. Hey were=20 > are you guys? >=20 In a message dated 1/3/01 3:55:23 AM Central Standard Time,=20 Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no (Richard Brekne) writes: > ET was known in China waaayyyy before the greeks were even thought of....=20= or=20 >=20 That's what they say, Richard but I hope the pianos they had then weren't as= =20 bad as what they say is coming out of there now. Ironically, I was going to say the same thing as Kevin. Helmholtz wrote a=20 table of theoretical frequencies but William Braide White was the first to=20 write up anything that could really be identified as ET for tuning the moder= n=20 piano. The others only got close and they were largely tuning precursors to= =20 the modern piano such as organs, harpsichords and fortepianos. Even White's= =20 instructions were not complete enough for most people to actually get it=20 right. It took PTG, Bill Garlick RPT and Dr. Al Sanderson RPT to identify=20 the 4:5 ratio of contiguous 3rds in order for tuners to be able to=20 consistently tune a true ET. Bach definitely had nothing to do with ET, contrary to popular belief. The=20 transition from 1/4 and possibly 1/5 Syntonic Meantones to the early=20 *Well-Tempered* Tuning systems such as those by Kirnburger and Werkmeister=20 were erroneously *called* ET, thereby causing the confusion about when ET=20 really came into practice. This was because the Well-Tempered system=20 supposedly now made all keys equally *accessible*, hence "ET". The notion=20 that Bach used ET itself was reinforced because many textbooks, including=20 Grove's Dictionary of Music printed the error that equated Well-Tempered=20 Tuning to ET. (The two terms, in fact, are mutually exclusive). I don't know who Lanfranco was but other theorists such as Mersenne and=20 Marpurg proposed ET but as a useful temperament, it was regarded as=20 unsatisfactory to most people for tuning the early keyboard instruments in=20 their days. The tuning of some fretted instruments in ET did date back to a= =20 very early time (1500's) but again, if they didn't do much better than I see= =20 people typically do today, it never really was ET. While ET really is possible today on the modern piano, it still remains a=20 difficult and furtive goal. While most advocate it strongly and believe in=20 it as a fact of existence, others question its reality and validity. My personal opinion is that even though the modern piano seems to be designe= d=20 for an equal tempered scale in its string arrangement, the keyboard still ha= s=20 an irregular pattern that suggests an irregular scale. Since it is really a= =20 late 19th Century instrument, a late 19th Century style tuning seems to fit=20 it best for all around use. Bill Bremmer RPT Madison, Wisconsin ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/ce/cb/6c/6b/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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