Sangler & Sohne Serial Seizing Centers

[Joseph Garrett]

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Z!
Amen to that!
Joe
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Z! Reinhardt=20
  To: Pianotech=20
  Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 1:23 PM
  Subject: Re: Sangler & Sohne Serial Seizing Centers


  According to The Piano Book by Larry Fine, this make of piano is made =
by the Pearl River Group in China, unless it is the 47" upright, which =
is made in Belarus.  The warranty is for 10 years, parts only.  (How =
much does a packet of centerpins cost versus how many hours will it take =
to install them properly?)  Sounds like this piano's problems will put =
you between a rock and a hard place without your shirt intact.
  =20
  Perhaps the ceiling is the best place to send the nursing home =
management -- they have the choice of paying for the entire job to be =
done right, or of buying a whole new better-grade of piano.  It's a =
no-win situation, and I'd hate to see any technician get caught in the =
middle of something like this as people try to get out of paying for the =
necessary work or for a better instrument.
  =20
  Z! Reinhardt  RPT
  Ann Arbor  MI
  diskladame@provide.net
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Allan L. Gilreath, RPT=20
    To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
    Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 12:45 PM
    Subject: RE: Sangler & Sohne Serial Seizing Centers


    Dave,
    =20
    We've run into something similar on a couple of brands.  As I'm not =
sure who the manufacturer of the Sangler is, it's difficult to diagnose =
more.  However, contact the dealer and the manufacturer to see if this =
can be covered under warranty.  A systemic problem like this certainly =
sounds like IMO, the proper remedy is to repin all of them with proper =
technique.  It's interesting that the wippen flange is the one freezing =
and not the hammer flange as this is where I usually find this to show =
up.
    =20
    BTW, we will have several classes on dealing with action centers as =
well as hands-on opportunities at the Annual Convention & Institute in =
Reno.  Also there will be plenty of factory techs and other experienced =
technicians whose brains you can pick.
    =20
    Hope to see you there.

    Allan
    Allan L. Gilreath, RPT
    Assistant Director - TEAM2001
    July 11-15, 2001 - Reno, NV
    agilreath@mindspring.com
    http://www.ptg.org/conv.htm
    Director: Laura Olsen, RPT
    Assistant Directors: Allan Gilreath, RPT - Gary Neie, RPT - Dale =
Probst, RPT=20

      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On =
Behalf Of Dave Bunch
      Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:06 PM
      To: pianotech@ptg.org
      Subject: Sangler & Sohne Serial Seizing Centers


      I service a three year old Sangler & Sohne in a nursing home. =
Among its many problems is that as time passes, the centers start =
seizing up a few at a time. I mean they will be fine when I am there =
tuning an a month later five whippen centers will be so tight you can =
barely move the flange by hand! Protek won't touch it. I have to repin =
them, check the rest of them. Everything is fine then I get a call a =
couple months later and there are several new ones. Is glue leaching =
through the bushings? Is there any solution besides repining the whole =
action? They would hit the ceiling with that suggestion. Anyone else =
seen this?
      =20
      Dave Bunch



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