OK folks, I got a couple of good responses to the actual question early on, but this has once again wandered off into a series of answers not relating to the question asked. The question was, and still is: ************************************************************************ If folks are habitually doing two pass tunings anyway, and since they're probably using an ETD that does pitch raises within a couple of cents of dead on in one pass (as we read repeatedly), why would they find it necessary to charge anything above the cost of a tuning for a pitch adjustment? *********************************************************************** I do, believe me, understand that it takes longer and is more work to do a two pass pitch raise and tuning than a one pass tuning. I also understand, believe me, that you can't do a substantial (no numbers, just somewhere off pitch) pitch correction as accurately in one pass as in two. That's why I didn't ask that particular question - nor am I likely to. I am, in practice, an active tuner/technician, and live this stuff on a daily basis so I'm quite familiar with the reactions of pianos to pitch adjustments. I don't need the sales pitch, I'm merely asking for an explanation answering my question. If anyone is interesting in clearing this up for me, please read the question again and, if what you habitually do corresponds to the question in that you (1) habitually do two pass tunings, (2) tune with an ETD, and (3) charge extra for pitch adjustments, I'd like to hear your reasoning justifying the extra charge. I also asked another related question regarding how those who charge for pitch adjustments based on how far off pitch the piano is, determine how far off pitch the piano is. I still haven't gotten an answer on this one, which baffles me. This has gotten so much traffic through the years that I was sure I'd get a veritable avalanche of cogent and clever methods from those who habitually quote cents deviation in their posts about pitch adjustments. How can one compute charges on something they can't define? Maybe it's just me, but I find honest answers to these sort of simple fundamental questions to be far more valuable, as well as far more difficult to get, than information on how to get tape residue off of keytops. Ron N
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