This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Wimblees@AOL.COM=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: September 10, 2001 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Killer Octave - Warranty Issue? ....In design, even "cheap" pianos are engineered to have proper down=20 bearing, bridges etc. The problem between the cheap and the expensive = ones=20 are that in the manufacturing process,=20 Fundamentally this is true. More specifically, it lies in the amount of = money spent on production machinery to remove hand labor. if a problem is discovered with the=20 expensive one, it is sent back through, while with the cheap ones, = there=20 isn't the time, nor the money, to do it over again. So the piano is = sent out=20 as is. But that is why it is a "cheap" piano.=20 I've not really seen this happening, and have commented on it in another = post. If interested the reader can refer to that post. When the piano gets to the dealer, we have the same problem. When a = dealer=20 can make $10,000 on a piano, he/she is more willing to pay a = technician a=20 couple of hundred dollars to correct any problems.=20 I have not really found this to be the case.=20 Or if the problem is=20 serious, it will get sent back. (In this case, the manufacturer = realizes=20 there is a reputation at stake, and is willing to absorb a certain = amount of=20 loss to redo the instrument.)=20 Nor have I found this to be the case.=20 My observation has been that the dealer will either make the problem = right--or see that the problem is made right--or not. It depends more on = the personal integrity of the dealer than the price of the piano sold. = Talk to Roger. But when the profit margin gets reduced down to=20 $2 - 3000, even if the work needs to be done, there isn't the money=20 available. (And by the same token, the manufacturer is very reluctant = to take=20 the piano back.) Again, that is why it is a "cheap" piano.=20 One would certainly think this would be consistently true, but it often = seems that the manufacturer of the low-cost piano is more concerned with = backing up its products than are the manufacturers of more expensive = pianos. Perhaps this is because the low-end manufacturer might be more = willing to accept that their pianos may, indeed, have problems. And when customers buy this, they either know there is a problem, or = they=20 don't. If they don't, then they get, as Clyde put it, "what they pay = for."=20 For a technician to point out the problem, unless you bought the piano = from=20 Roger, or someone with his ethics and reputation, the customer is = probably=20 going to have to accept what they paid for, even if we point out the = problem.=20 What will most likely happen, as Ron pointed out, is that the dealer, = or the=20 manufacturer, will send out another technician, who is more = "friendly," and=20 point out to the customer that there is nothing "wrong" with the = piano. Then=20 the original tuner looses a customer, and he has made the dealer mad.=20 I have been rethinking this whole issue of late. Just what should the = buyer of a low-cost piano expect? Relative to the buyer of a much more = expensive piano, that is.=20 It should be possible to mass-produce pianos giving excellent = performance. Good piano design, hence good piano performance, is not--at = least is not inherently--expensive. Rims and soundboards can now be made = efficiently by machine, why shouldn't they be made in such a way that = they perform well. Increasingly I am becoming convinced that what you get with an expensive = piano is exclusivity, excellence in marketing (and all that that brings = with it, some good and some bad) and, at least potentially, somewhat = better materials. None of which necessarily translate into improved tone = performance. The potential performance gains afforded by better = materials can probably be designed around, given some effort. As I've said in other posts, we--the collective we; technicians, = dealers, consumers, all of us--have not been demanding much in the way = of piano performance over the past few years. We've been demanding = perfect polyester finishes, perfectly fitting hardware and casework, = perfect coils on perfect pins, perfect bridge notching, perfect = soundboard wood, perfectly shaped hammers, perfect tunability--yes, = especially perfect tunability--perfect everything except truly musical = instruments.=20 It is my opinion that, finally, the marketplace is speaking. As the = piano has become nothing more than a perfect piece of furniture they are = going off to buy something else. Perhaps it's time to bring back the = music. Regards, Del Delwin D Fandrich Piano Designer & Builder Hoquiam, Washington USA E.mail: pianobuilders@olynet.com Web Site: www.pianobuilders.com=20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/41/0f/86/56/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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