On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 22:49:25 John Delacour wrote: > >Spruce, or any wood, particularly softwoods will have very different >values of Young's Modulus according to the direction of the grain. >That's why ribs are needed in the first place! > >And all this presumes that the rib's sole purpose is to act >as a girder, which is not so. The stiffness of any part of the >system will also affect the wave speed of the forced vibrations, not >to speak of the resonant (modal) frequencies of the board as a whole. > >JD > John, I've seen this expressed before in other places; since the board is orthotropic and the speed of sound is less across the grain than along and waves don't propogate in the same way across the grain than along the grain, etc., etc. the ribs need to provide a cross grain path for the sound or waves. I wonder how important this is to soundboard behavior. I'm not convinced that if you turned the grain of the soundboard 90 degrees to the current norm and left the ribs as they normally are (in other words the grain of the board parallel to the line of the ribs) that the board wouldn't function just as well, even though the ribs aren't providing a cross grain path (although admittedly the bridge would be). I think it would be an interesting experiment. I'm wondering if the main purpose of the ribs isn't structural (just acting as a girder as you put it). Structurally it seems they serve two purposes: 1. To reinforce the board so that it can resist the downward force of the strings and do so without adding the weight that would be necessary if the board was thickened enough to sustain the load without ribs. 2. To change the vibrational modes of the board. The ribs 'break up' the board, so to speak, and change its natural modes, which is probably essential in an instrument with a large frequency range over which it has to work. Perhaps these functions are the primary ones and carrying waves, damping, etc. are secondary or insignificant to the soundboard's function. Another aspect of this is that some people seem to feel that there is something magical about the board having orthotropic properties and that wood is the choice for musical instrument boards partly because it is orthotropic. I'm unconvinced about this. I think a soundboard needs to have high stiffness to density and some level of internal damping. When pianos were developed the only material available with these properties was wood (softwood). Now it just so happens that this material is orthotropic. Some people have concluded that this means that the soundboard needs to be orthotropic. Perhaps they're right but I'm unconvinced. I've seen pianos with laminated boards (which I've taken to be essentially isotropic) that seem to serve the same function (whether they do it as well as an orthotropic board is still an open question). Ron Overs's piano which he displayed in Reno is an example. I don't know enough about the way the board is constructed to know if it is truly isotropic. Perhaps Ron can comment on that. Phil F Go Get It! Send FREE Valentine eCards with Lycos Greetings http://greetings.lycos.com
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