Old Timers Please Vote was Loose Tuning Pins Solution

[Joe And Penny Goss]

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Hi David ,
It is only ugly if you let the CA get away from you and run all over the =
place. And never use the kicker as it turns the CA white if too much is =
used. I also think that when too much kicker is used it must weaken the =
glue.
Joe Goss
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: David Ilvedson=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Old Timers Please Vote was Loose Tuning Pins Solution


  Kevin again,

  Re-reading, I see you were talking about if every pin was loose and of =
course and of course removing pins/CA wouldn't be an option.  I have =
heard people swear that thin CA will get down into the block...I haven't =
tried it and I'm sure it is UGLY...!

  David I.

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  From: "Kevin E. Ramsey" <ramsey@extremezone.com>
  To: "Alan R. Barnard" <mathstar@salemnet.com>, Pianotech =
<pianotech@ptg.org>
  Received: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 18:56:27 -0700
  Subject: Re: Old Timers Please Vote was Loose Tuning Pins Solution

  Alan, I don't consider myself much of an "Old-timer" since I'm still =
under 55, but I've had great success with sandpaper. It must be cloth =
backed, though. I'll use 60 or 80 grit, doesn't seem to matter much, =
because the grit faces outward anyway. When I first got into tuning, I =
bought an old junker huge upright that was basically shot, had to shim a =
lot of pins. I tuned that old wreck three four times a day for a year =
and a half to two years. The cloth backed sandpaper worked like a charm, =
felt as good as a decent pinblock, and didn't wear out. That's probably =
more tunings than a regular piano would get in fifty years.=20
      I wouldn't try to use this method on a piano that has every pin =
loose, but for the few, it's been great. If a piano has bushings, and =
most do, I don't see how CA glue can get to the block.

      Kevin E. Ramsey
    I have had excellent results with the old #80 or #60 sandpaper =
shims. And
    haven't noticed any jumping  or other naughty behavior on the part =
of the
    shimmed pins.

    What advantages do you see in using the leather?

    How about leather vs. sandpaper vs. veneer strips?



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