Which ETD?

[Isaac OLEG]

Hello,

It all depends how good you are at aural tuning, as all these machines
can help you to produce more consistent results, but the ones working
with a 1 partial display need more tweaking in fact, or you change
your kind of tone and your tuning became somewhat unnatural IMHO
(because too much focused on the principal partial).

Having tried the SAT & RCT, I agree that only the VT produce musical
results without  much help from you as a tuner. That does not mean you
should not check, but I often now use all my energy to build tone
rather than check intervals, and I am amazed how good it sound after
that, while when using the others I was always somewhat uncomfortable
with the proposed pitch and stretch.

As I tuned since age of 20 (I am 46) but did not learn the partial
coincidence method before these 8 last years, I was may be less
confident in this approach, and that is why I was not totally
satisfied with the 1 partial machine.

But the VT is really an electronic tuner's hear, that is why it is so
efficient. It's weight/size is of course more than a Pocket PC, but I
consider it's use so much rewarding that it is worth all
disagreements.

Having an old brittle piano to sing after only 1 hour 15 work because
I could make really pleasing unison because I had enough time to voice
and check a few regulation makes the customer's calling you more than
other more "classical" tuners, because even a non musician can
understand there is a difference.


Hope that helps your choice.

Biased greetings from

Isaac OLEG


> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
> [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]De la
> part de Don
> Envoye : jeudi 10 octobre 2002 09:40
> A : Pianotech
> Objet : Re: Which ETD?
>
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> I think you might also consider Tunelab Pro. It is
> shareware and you can
> try it before you buy it. I personally use RCT. I'd love to
> own a SAT 3 and
> a verituner as well!
>
> At 10:50 PM 10/9/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >I've read everyone's reviews of the Verituner, and don't
> doubt that
> >it has brought the calculation of a tuning up a notch from RCT,
> >TuneLab and SAT by 1.) working from the basis of an 88-note sample
> >rather than a 5-note sample (Obviously more accurate if the VT has
> >its samples on hand before the tuning instead of as they come in
> >during the tuning pattern), and by 2.) paying attention to *all*
> >coincidental partials in an interval instead of just one.
> >
> >But having taken my RCT laptop out for showtime this summer, it's
> >clear that the only practical ETD is one the size of a
> Compaq iPaq in
> >the Spurlock clip holder. So the big question for me as I count my
> >pennies towards a major jump towards an ETD is: is the
> slight drop in
> >the precision of the tuning calculation greater than the
> ease of use
> >of an iPaq unit which fits in a shirt pocket, and can be
> moved from
> >Tuning pin to tuning pin? (This also allows the built in mic to do
> >its best work.) Richard Brekne seemed to conclude that the
> >differences in the calculated tuning were mainly in
> principle and of
> >not that much practical value.
> >
> >IOW, if I choose an iPaq based ETD, is what I gain in compactness
> >more than what I would lose in the sophistication in the tuning's
> >calculation. (Speaking as a 30+year aura tuner.)
> >
> >Bill Ballard RPT
> >NH Chapter, P.T.G.
> >
> >".......true more in general than specifically"
> >     ...........Lenny Bruce, spoofing a radio discussion
> of the Hebrew
> >roots of Calypso music
> >+++++++++++++++++++++
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> Regards,
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