Don: No, I haven't tried sampling all the notes. I have sampled all the Cs and F#s on several pianos, but frankly it does just as well with fewer samples. With the latest version, you tell TuneLab Pro where the break is by measuring the notes on each side of the break, and 3 other notes below the break, and 3 others above. Then it knows exactly where the break is, and what kind of disparities are involved. With this information -- 8 sampled notes and the exact location of the break, a very good tuning is created. On poorly scaled (short) pianos you can see some visual bumps in the tuning curve that correspond to the break and some octaves below it. On well scaled pianos these differences are often very subtle, but I do like to tell the program where the break is except on Ds & Bs etc. I'm very impressed with the results. Until this version came out, I frequently just tuned the bass aurally. Now I can relax and use TuneLab Pro down to the bottom. I still leave my ears on, but...... dave *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 10/11/2002 at 7:38 AM Don wrote: >Hi David, > >Have you ever tried sampling *all* the notes on a piano with tunelab pro? >Does it fall over if you do? Inquiring minds want to know. Would this give >the same results as a "verituner" calculation??? > > >At 06:11 AM 10/11/02 -0500, you wrote: >>Bill: >> >>Yes, I've been very happy with the tunings made by TuneLab Pro, >>especially since the latest version was introduced. Telling the >>program where the break is, and measuring 4 notes on each side of the >>break makes a very good tuning on even problem pianos. My choice is >>still the full laptop version, but that's because I want the computer >>there for other reasons (scheduling, invoicing etc.) but the pocket >>version is also complete. One thing I really appreciate about >>TuneLab in all its versions, is that it has never crashed my system. >>Robert writes very bug free code that is also quite compact. >> >>dave >> >>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** >> >>On 10/10/02 at 11:18 PM Bill Ballard wrote: >> >>>At 8:03 PM +0000 10/10/02, Ron Koval wrote: >>>>What the VT will do, using your example from above.... >>>> >>>>You like the temperament octave real "clean" with a contracted 4:2, >> >>>>instead of guessing how much, let the machine measure both the 2:1 >>>>and the 4:2 and put the tuning,say 70% between, favoring the 4:2. >>>>Once you find the percentage that works for you, it can translate >>to >>>>any instrument you might come across. Likewise, you can place >>>>target points anywhere in the scale, from A0-C88, not just move the >> >>>>A's around, and have the rest of the tuning adjust based on those >>>>A's. >>>> >>>>I used to spend upwards of 15 mins. each tuning sampling and >>messing >>>>with the graphing equalizer before tuning with RCT, and I did get >>>>some pretty good results. It's so much easier to fire up the VT, >>>>punch in my custom setting, pick an optimizing temperament and just >> >>>>start tuning. >>> >>>The sophistication of the VT is no surprise to me, but size matters. >> >>>My current tuner tucks away on the bulb sitting on top of my >>>shoulders. >>> >>>Has anyone else been perfectly happy with the tunings produced by an >> >>>RTC or TuneLab, and especially grateful for the small size of the >>>ETD? One which mounts easily on the tuning pins? That's the choice >>>I'm thinking of making. >>> >>> >>>Bill Ballard RPT >>>NH Chapter, P.T.G. >>> >>>Visit Bhod Ankur, the underwater monument to yesterday's >>civilization. >>>+++++++++++++++++++++ >>>_______________________________________________ >>>pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> >>_____________________________ >>David M. Porritt >>dporritt@mail.smu.edu >>Meadows School of the Arts >>Southern Methodist University >>Dallas, TX 75275 >>_____________________________ >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> > >Regards, >Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.M.T., R.P.T. Tuner for the Center of >the Arts > >mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca > >http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/ > >3004 Grant Rd. >REGINA, SK >S4S 5G7 >306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives _____________________________ David M. Porritt dporritt@mail.smu.edu Meadows School of the Arts Southern Methodist University Dallas, TX 75275 _____________________________
This PTG archive page provided courtesy of Moy Piano Service, LLC