Baldwin Hamilton loose side panel

[Joe And Penny Goss]

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Hi again Jerry,
It has been my experience that a tipper will not work for this project =
as the glue needs to be applied from the rear of the piano to get the =
neatest finished repair. One thing that I omited, to get the G glue to =
travel further into the seperated area use 2" masking tape to cover the =
crevasse.  This will somewhat direct the glue deeper between the two =
parts.
Tipping the piano will only minimally allow  glue to travel with =
gravity, as the glue will suspend between the two sides and stop its =
flow due to surface tension.
G glue is thicker than Tightbond but just a little swells up to 4 times =
its liquid volume. Then hardens to a sort of plastic that has little =
crawl.
Joe Goss RPT
Mother Goose Tools
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
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  From: Farrell=20
  To: Pianotech=20
  Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 6:21 PM
  Subject: Re: Baldwin Hamilton loose side panel


  NO!

  Get a proper upright piano tilter.

  Terry Farrell

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  From: "Jerry Cohen" <emailforjc@yahoo.com>
  To: "'Pianotech'" <pianotech@ptg.org>
  Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 7:49 PM
  Subject: RE: Baldwin Hamilton loose side panel


  > David and Joe,
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  > Thanks for the excellent information.
  > One more question. Is it safe to tilt the piano forward with 1 =
person, or
  > should I bring a helper?=20
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  > Also, for Joe; does Gorilla glue get along well with Goose juice, or =
do they
  > need separate cages? Sorry, couldn't help that one.
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  > Thanks for the help.
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  > Jerry Cohen
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  > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] =
On Behalf
  > Of Dave Nereson
  > Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 7:08 AM
  > To: Pianotech
  > Subject: Re: Baldwin Hamilton loose side panel
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  > ----- Original Message -----=20
  > From: "Jerry Cohen" <emailforjc@yahoo.com>
  > To: "'Pianotech'" <pianotech@ptg.org>
  > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 6:57 PM
  > Subject: Baldwin Hamilton loose side panel
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  > . . . . .
  > > My question is, what is the best way to make this repair? The side =
panel
  > is
  > > attached, but I can separate it slightly from the back frame =
everywhere
  > from
  > > top to bottom at the back. In order to get glue in, I think it =
would be
  > best
  > > to tilt the piano forward and rest it on the keybed. Can the =
keybed
  > support
  > > this weight?
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  >         Heck yeah; you might tighten screws first just so =
everything's
  > solid.
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  > >Also, what is the best glue to use now? Should I use epoxy, or
  > > is yellow glue ok?
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  >         Yellow glue should be fine as long as you can do a good =
clamping
  > job.
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  > > I was planning on using long pipe clamps the full width
  > > of the piano. Getting the glue in is my biggest concern.
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  >     Sounds good.  That's what I've done in the past.  Use a long =
soundboard
  > steel or old hacksaw blade to distribute the glue around in the =
crack.
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  >  > Has anyone seen this problem?  Appreciate any help.
  >      > Thanks.
  >  > Jerry Cohen
  >  > NJ chapter
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  >     Yes.  A few times.  I fixed it just the way you're thinking.  =
Just make
  > sure everything's lined up correctly so you don't end up with bad =
regulation
  > problems.  But it sounds like the side hasn't come completely loose =
on
  > yours, so you should be OK.
  >     --David Nereson, RPT
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