Baldwin Hamilton loose side panel

[John Ross]

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Hi,
Another way to get the glue in to the crack, is to use a pig. This is a reservoir for air, and you just put an air nozzle on it, and blow. They normally, come with a connector, that you can blow your tire up with.
You can fill them at a gas station, if you don't have an air compressor. 
You might even be able to borrow one, to do the job.
Regards,
John M. Ross
Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe And Penny Goss 
  To: Pianotech 
  Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 10:23 PM
  Subject: Re: Baldwin Hamilton loose side panel


  Hi again Jerry,
  It has been my experience that a tipper will not work for this project as the glue needs to be applied from the rear of the piano to get the neatest finished repair. One thing that I omited, to get the G glue to travel further into the seperated area use 2" masking tape to cover the crevasse.  This will somewhat direct the glue deeper between the two parts.
  Tipping the piano will only minimally allow  glue to travel with gravity, as the glue will suspend between the two sides and stop its flow due to surface tension.
  G glue is thicker than Tightbond but just a little swells up to 4 times its liquid volume. Then hardens to a sort of plastic that has little crawl.
  Joe Goss RPT
  Mother Goose Tools
  imatunr@srvinet.com
  www.mothergoosetools.com
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Farrell 
    To: Pianotech 
    Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 6:21 PM
    Subject: Re: Baldwin Hamilton loose side panel


    NO!

    Get a proper upright piano tilter.

    Terry Farrell

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Jerry Cohen" <emailforjc@yahoo.com>
    To: "'Pianotech'" <pianotech@ptg.org>
    Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 7:49 PM
    Subject: RE: Baldwin Hamilton loose side panel


    > David and Joe,
    > 
    > Thanks for the excellent information.
    > One more question. Is it safe to tilt the piano forward with 1 person, or
    > should I bring a helper? 
    > 
    > Also, for Joe; does Gorilla glue get along well with Goose juice, or do they
    > need separate cages? Sorry, couldn't help that one.
    > 
    > Thanks for the help.
    > 
    > Jerry Cohen
    > 
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf
    > Of Dave Nereson
    > Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 7:08 AM
    > To: Pianotech
    > Subject: Re: Baldwin Hamilton loose side panel
    > 
    > 
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "Jerry Cohen" <emailforjc@yahoo.com>
    > To: "'Pianotech'" <pianotech@ptg.org>
    > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 6:57 PM
    > Subject: Baldwin Hamilton loose side panel
    > 
    > 
    > . . . . .
    > > My question is, what is the best way to make this repair? The side panel
    > is
    > > attached, but I can separate it slightly from the back frame everywhere
    > from
    > > top to bottom at the back. In order to get glue in, I think it would be
    > best
    > > to tilt the piano forward and rest it on the keybed. Can the keybed
    > support
    > > this weight?
    > 
    >         Heck yeah; you might tighten screws first just so everything's
    > solid.
    > 
    > >Also, what is the best glue to use now? Should I use epoxy, or
    > > is yellow glue ok?
    > 
    >         Yellow glue should be fine as long as you can do a good clamping
    > job.
    > 
    > > I was planning on using long pipe clamps the full width
    > > of the piano. Getting the glue in is my biggest concern.
    > 
    >     Sounds good.  That's what I've done in the past.  Use a long soundboard
    > steel or old hacksaw blade to distribute the glue around in the crack.
    > 
    >  > Has anyone seen this problem?  Appreciate any help.
    >      > Thanks.
    >  > Jerry Cohen
    >  > NJ chapter
    > 
    >     Yes.  A few times.  I fixed it just the way you're thinking.  Just make
    > sure everything's lined up correctly so you don't end up with bad regulation
    > problems.  But it sounds like the side hasn't come completely loose on
    > yours, so you should be OK.
    >     --David Nereson, RPT
    > 
    > 
    > 
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