Snug bushings that keep the hammer flying straight are good. But what amount of friction they exert upon the pin is another thing altogether. I'm with Sarah in that I think utterly slop-free bushings with minimal friction would be ideal. It would be nice if the "control" the pianist feels at the instrument were primarily due to weight and leverages, not friction. I think. ( Hey! But what do I know?) Thump --- Richard Brekne <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no> wrote: > Grin... Ok Keith... its now > > 2 to the rest of the world... :) > > Cheers > RicB > > Sarah Fox wrote: > > > Hi Ryan, > > > > >I knew I'd get in trouble for my comments! : ) > > > > And indeed you did! ;-) Your preference for > free-swinging hammers is > > absolutely wrong-headed. it flies in the face of > what almost every > > technician will tell you -- that friction is a > *good* thing. > > > > Having said that, I'll side with you and Horowitz > on this one. To me, > > frictiony hammers are like a new pair of tennis > shoes. They're not > > yet in their prime. Surely we aren't the only > ones who have this > > bizarre preference. However, it's a preference > that is perhaps as > > gauche as preferring a frosty glass of Coca Cola > to a fine wine. Me? > > I'm Sarah Fox, and I'm a Cocaholic. > > > > In this world, people are all too timid to state > their preferences -- > > all too prepared to be told they are wrong. These > are the same people > > who accept that this or that cannot be done. I > guess I learned long > > ago not to listen to people who told me I was > foolish or wrong. > > Learning to listen to myself and regard my own > thoughts as valid is > > the single, most important factor underlying what > successes I have had > > in my life. (How else would a dyslexic, ADD kid > who was identified in > > the first grade as mentally retarded go on to get > her Ph.D. and make a > > few contributions to the field of theoretical > bioacoustics that > > everyone told her were theoretically impossible?) > I would suggest the > > same thing was true for one very celebrated (but > wrongheaded) Russian > > pianist, not to mention other notables, such as a > wacko German > > physicist, also "mentally retarded," who changed > the way we look at > > the universe. I'm am grateful that there are at > least a few people > > who don't listen when others tell them they're > wrong. > > > > Rather than for others to harp on why you are > wrong, it would be > > wonderful if discussion were to center on > overcoming the challenges, > > if any, of a low-friction action -- or on what the > tradeoffs are with > > other parameters of the action. > > Sarah... read my last paragraph... I open up for > exactly that. I do > question the <<scientific basis>> ryan opened up > with tho. Thats > quantifiable... so lets see the quantities > documented before we stated > they are or are not. so. > > > > > Finally, you are quite right about the difference > between "free" and > > "loose." If you were to equip those hammer shanks > with high-quality > > ceramic bearings, they would be both rock-solid > and slippery-free. > > Perhaps Steinway wasn't entirely on the wrong > track with their teflon > > bushings. Perhaps it was simply a good idea, > poorly implemented, and > > ahead of its time. I wonder if we shouldn't give > it another go -- > > this time with teflon-lined carbon fiber flanges > and shanks? > > They are on that track today as well, with very low > friction levels in > their hammershank flanges At least in New York > they operate this > way. Hamburg is more traditional. > > > > > Yours in peace and heresy, > > Sarah > > > > Cheers > RicB > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: > https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush
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