Quickie Pitch Raise

[Kurt Eichenbach]

Hi Terry,

It seems everything I've read or heard about pitch raises says you have 
to raise each and every string.  And, of course, there is a curve 
strategy involved.  I guess I need to go and review the texts.  But 
then again, different people find things that work.  So it could be 
good news if your process works.  What does the PTG training manual 
have to say on this matter?

Kurt Eichenbach


On Thursday, January 15, 2004, at 03:00  AM, Don wrote:

> Hi Terry,
>
> You might want to investigate "deaf or blind tuning" in the archives. 
> The
> trick is to use it on the "last string" that you tune in any unison.
> Because I feel that almost all tunings are pitch corrections (anything 
> over
> 4 cents) I nearly constantly use the pitch overcompensation feature of
> Reyburn Cyber Tuner.
>
> 75 minutes does not make you a slow tuner, sorry to disappoint you 
> there!
> *grin*
>
> I believe that for the method you are describing that stability will be
> less than with more traditional practises. I don't have "hard data" 
> but the
> pianos were I have used "deaf" tuning for part of the initial tuning 
> are
> much wilder in those same areas when I return to service them the next
> time. However I'm talking about changes of 100 plus cents, not the 16 
> that
> you speak of.
>
> At 08:45 PM 1/14/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>>    the "quickie" pitch  raise.   &H (Aolean) console (junk) that was 
>> up to
>> 10 cents  flat.     cents sharp (bring the one  string up sharp 
>> enough for
>> both strings), and the left string of the tricords up  maybe 15 or 16 
>> cents
>> (enough for all three strings plus enough for the overpull  thing). By
>> doing that, the total tension on the system is up to A440. Therefore, 
>>  when
>> I go to tune on the next pass, I am not making any overall pitch
>> adjustments - I just set each string to target pitch without 
>> concerning
>> myself  with overpull, etc. This way the pitch raise goes very fast 
>> because
>> you only  adjust one string - instead of three.   I am not a fast 
>> tuner,
>> but the little trashy console I did  this morning was between zero 
>> and 10
>> cents flat. I tuned it at the proper pitch  (and I mean it was a real 
>> good
>> tuning where all notes were right where I wanted  them) in 75 
>> minutes.   I
>> find that you don't really want to try this with a piano  that is 
>> more than
>> 10 cents off pitch in any area. But for the piano that is just  a tad 
>> flat
>> or that just has one section that is a tad flat, this might be a  
>> quick
>> good thing to try.   Am I reinventing the wheel?   Terry Farrell
>
> Regards,
> Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.
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