Tuner's Knot--NOT!

[Elwood Doss, Jr.]

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Hey Joe,
Is there a visual anywhere regarding this knot?  I'd like to see how =
it's done.
Joy!
Elwood

Elwood Doss, Jr., RPT
Piano Technician/Technical Director
Department of Music
106 Fine Arts Building
University of Tennessee at Martin
Martin, TN  38238
731-587-1152
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  From: Joe And Penny Goss=20
  To: Pianotech=20
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 9:01 AM
  Subject: Re: Tuner's Knot--NOT!


  Hi Dave, There is another knotfor bass strings that might work in this =
case, One end ( the wraped ) is like the usual knot, while the other =
looks like a shepherds crook. Use pipe cleaners to practice tying.
  The knot is applied by dry fitting the two ends and measuring the =
length for the coil, before making the becket and coil. Start the coil =
and watch the ends so that when thet are close they can be mated. You =
will have to  twist the crook into position or loosen the hitch and mate =
the two ends then twist the string in the direction of the inner wrap. =
The twist will only be like a half turn or so and is not hard to work =
with.
  Joe Goss
  imatunr@srvinet.com
  www.mothergoosetools.com
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    From: Piannaman@aol.com=20
    To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
    Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 7:03 AM
    Subject: Tuner's Knot--NOT!


    Hi all,=20

    My last job of the day yesterday was a not-so-long-ago refinished, =
re-strung M and H AA.  It was sitting in a room that could have doubled =
as a sauna.  No window coverings on the huge windows, direct afternoon =
sun for hours.  The side of the piano that faced the window was hot to =
the touch.=20

    I gave the owner a brief lecture about the importance of getting her =
piano into a more temperate climatic situation, then set to work on a 30 =
cent pitch raise.  First note, A0:  kinda tight feeling pin, yank, THUD! =
 Broken, right at the pin.  Great opportunity to splice it with the knot =
I practiced so diligently for so many hours.  =20

    I tried for about twenty minutes to get the leader(all I had was 21 =
1/2 string to use, and the core of the broken string was probably around =
24), but I could not get it into position so that I could interface the =
two ends properly.  The thick wire was pretty hard to work with, because =
of lack of flexibility, but the main problem was that there was so =
little space in that little corner of the piano.=20

    Any ideas for making this repair a little easier?  I'm certain that =
it could be done.  I will be ordering a new string, however, and given =
that the strings are relatively new, that will be the best fix.  =20

    Why the original broke is a mystery to me.  It seems likely that the =
stringer bent it one too many times while installing it.=20

    Input and advice?  =20

    Thanks,=20

    Dave Stahl 
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