re-stringing and CA

[Michael Gamble]

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Yes, John, You're right about the aesthetics. New S&S "D" use chromed =
w-pins but they'd look a bit out of place in an older S&S unless the =
rest of the beast was totally-but-totally rebuilt, all the bright metal =
knobs and rim bolts rechromed etc. etc. and so forth. Then with all that =
bright work the pins have to be chromed.
As for the gunged up holes someone was just recommending use of reamers =
according to the size of the new pins.... there's a thought.=20
Yet... I'm trying to get this basic query of: Use same size new pins as =
old pins and use CA as a tightening agent...;-) Guess there's no harm in =
using a reamer to clean out the holes though...? Or even your rifle-bore =
brush in a slow speed drill...?
Regards from windy old Sussex
Michael G.(UK)

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: John Ross=20
  To: Michael Gamble=20
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 10:11 AM
  Subject: Re: re-stringing and CA


  Hi Michael,
  They sound like they would need a good cleaning, to get rid of the =
residue, that mucked up the old pin threads.
  Possibly a good cleaning with a metal gun bore type brush would be =
enough of  a clean, that the new threads wouldn't get gummed up.
  I sometimes find that new chrome pins look out of place in an older =
piano.
  John
  John M. Ross
  Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
  jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Michael Gamble=20
    To: John Ross ; pianotech@ptg.org=20
    Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 4:21 AM
    Subject: Re: re-stringing and CA


    Hello John
    Thanks for your input! ;-) In fact the old pins aren't as described =
in this particular case. The thought of using new chrome instead of =
blued pins just for the look of them and in the hope that same-size new =
pins might possibly, with the use of CA, be an option.... In reaming the =
hole a larger size pin is indeed the only option.... but if it doesn't =
need reaming ... what then? This is for open discussion so I'm posting =
to the List
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: John Ross=20
      To: Michael Gamble=20
      Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:44 PM
      Subject: Re: re-stringing and CA


      Sounds like the holes need reamed to new wood. Then the low torque =
pins as suggested, size determined by the amount of wood removed.
      Regards,
      John M. Ross
      Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
      jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Michael Gamble=20
        To: John Ross ; pianotech@ptg.org=20
        Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:36 PM
        Subject: Re: re-stringing and CA


        Hello John and List
        The old pins are grotty, rusted and deformed and would not be =
worth preserving and re-bluing. Apart from which the old pins will have =
their scoring (the end part of the pin which is in the plank) filled =
with old wood particles and rust. The new pins will be chromed and =
indeed .. new. The object is to find out what your collective reaction =
is to CA-ing in new pins.
        Regards
        Michael G.(UK)
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          From: John Ross=20
          To: Pianotech=20
          Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:52 PM
          Subject: Re: re-stringing and CA


          Hi Michael,
          It doesn't make sense to buy the same size, new.=20
           If you want to try the C/A, save your customer the cost of =
the new pins, you can always 'reblue' the old ones.
          John M. Ross
          Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
          jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
            ----- Original Message -----=20
            From: Michael Gamble=20
            To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
            Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:35 PM
            Subject: re-stringing and CA


            Hello List
            Thought I'd start a thread about re-stringing. We usually =
use the "next-size-up" tuning pins when re-stringing but basic science =
tells me that the smaller the pin the less unwinding leverage on it from =
the string. So. How about a new set of tuning pins the same size as the =
old and using CA to "glue" them in....Ha! Ha!
            Regards from a darkening wintry Sussex village
            Michael G.(UK)
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