Table saw recommendations?

hubert liverman hubertliverman@bellsouth.net
Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:37:39 -0500


Hi Brad,

I agree with you. I was thinking  ripping 8 or12 inch  wide by    12  foot
boards, then slotting and cutting  to length. It takes forever to type right
now.
Feather boards,jigs,measurments,and 'real long arms', or a puller.

A large smile to you for your post.

Hubert Liverman
Tuner/Tech
Opelika,Al



> Hi Sarah,
> Either way router or table saw will require clamping/jigging if the block
is
> only 1" x 2"
> It would be easier to accomplish if the piece were longer; allowing you to
> cut the slot, then slice off smaller pieces.
> You'll likely have to remove the blade guard to do this.
>
> I would use the table saw and some quality stack dado blades.
> If you opt for starting with a longer piece of stock, you can do the
> following:
>
> Assuming the fence is to the 'west' of the blades, you could make two L
> shaped push-blocks that
> would push in a 'southwesterly' direction on the upper right corner of the
> piece to be cut, parallel with the fence.
> Make the push blocks 12" long, so you can use one in each hand, and paw
your
> way through the cut,
> moving one, holding the other, always keeping pressure on the piece.
>
> At the end of the cut, your push-down should extend past the stock piece
to
> insure a uniform slot.
> Your body would be at the left (west) side of the table saw,
> feet firmly planted, knees bent, mind clear, attitude humble and vigilant,
> center of gravity NEVER over the blades.
> (Harder to type/describe, but hopefully easy to picture)
>
> If you must do it with 1"x2" blocks, you could construct a jig with an
> exactly sized slot to accomodate your block.
> I would make it out of 5/8" plywood to hold the North, East, and South
sides
> of the block against the fence.
> Then, I would make a piece that sits on top of the block, rides against
the
> fence, and is screwed down tight to
> keep the block against the table saw surface.  Attached pdf file shows the
> idea.
>
> Pass the whole thing over the blades as above, and your larger piece now
has
> the same slot.
> Use it over and over, as long as your blocks are the same size.
>
> It might be just as easy to cut a custom slot into a board, rather than
> build around your 1x2 block.
>
> Move slowly, and take little bites.
> Clean and polish the table saw surface so everything glides like butter.
> Never lose respect for that blade.
> Never stand directly behind the blade, kicked back wood is like shrapnel.
> I have a hole in the back wall of my shop made by such a projectile.
> Once the cut is done and power is off, stand still and stare at the blade
> until it stops completely.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brad Smith, RPT
> www.smithpiano.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sarah Fox [mailto:sarah@graphic-fusion.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:25 AM
> To: staff@smithpiano.com; Pianotech
> Subject: Re: Table saw recommendations?
>
>
> Hi Brad,
>
> Excellent advice!  Too bad I can't even begin to afford the saws you've
> suggested.  :-(  I might upgrade with aftermarket add-ons later, if needs
> arise.
>
> Your emphasis on jigs leads me to post a question to you (or to anyone
else
> who cares to comment):  I have in mind a jig for cutting a 5/16" wide x
> ~3/8" deep rectangular slot through the length of a 1x2 piece of poplar
> stock.  I have a choice of doing it with a jig on a router (slowly, with
> lots of heat and noise) or doing three passes through a jig on the table
> saw.  I've never used a table saw to cut grooves.  Am I asking for trouble
> with regard to kickback?  I'm thinking that I'll avoid trouble by having a
> simple jig that holds the workpiece securely against the table and fence
> (while also covering the blade).  However I do this, I want to do it the
> best way, because I'll (hopefully) be cutting LOTS of stock this way.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Peace,
> Sarah
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Smith" <staff@smithpiano.com>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:19 AM
> Subject: RE: Table saw recommendations?
>
>
> > Hi Sarah,
> > My two cents...  or, my $1400...
> > I went through the process a few months back after having destroyed
> > my direct-drive table saw.
> > I chose Delta Unisaw, with extension table and mobile base for same.
> > The mobile base was 'free' with a coupon included in the purchase.
> > http://www.deltawoodworking.com/index.asp?e=136&p=4737
> > Delta has deals like this currently for all the X5 tools. It is 3HP,
cuts
> > thru the maple like butter. You can go to 5HP, if your needs require.
> > Researching, I found so much good news about the Biesmeyer fence,
> > that I added it to my 'must have' criteria.
> > http://www.deltawoodworking.com/index.asp?e=139&p=801
> > The fence makes the cuts jointer quality, EXACTLY where you want
> > them. The blade tilts to the left. I think it would accommodate a 12"
> > blade, not sure, check first.
> > Had to rewire the shop for 220V, but once you get to the larger saws,
> > most require it. I just got a nice dado set from Home Depot.
> > Diablo Stack Dado Saw Blade Set Model DD208
> >
> > It's more saw than I currently need, but I plan to move into more
> > woodworking stuff as I gracefully age.
> > My new motto is: "Buy it right, and buy it once".
> > Great tools pay for themselves, and you'll rarely regret getting the
> > 'good stuff'.
> >
> >>From the videos below, I learned about making customized throat
> > plates for the various dado cuts; general woodworking and machine
safety.
> > It's amazing what can be done with home made jigs and post-it note
> > shims. Mastering Woodworking Machines (Taunton Press) Mark
> > Duginske, Andrew Schultz
> > http://www.cambiumbooks.com/books/woodworking_machines/0-942391-98-5/
> > Mark Duginske has some good stuff on using the bandsaw for tenons,
> > with homemade fence, and paper shims to 'dial in' the thickness. He
> > does some dovetail joinery this way, that is really excellent.
> > DVD Mastering Your Table Saw (Taunton Press) Kelly Mehler
> > http://www.cambiumbooks.com/books/video-and-dvd/B0001KNH4K/
> > Great stuff on jigs, sliding miter box, cross cutting, safety, large
piece
> > work, odd shape work in sliding jigs, etc. He makes some jigs using
> > plexiglass, which function as miter box, and blade guard.
> > After viewing these, I'm more skeptical about buying expensive add-on
> > gadgets. (That's saying a lot, since I am a serious tool junkie). To
take
> > advantage of a full size cabinet saw and extension table, you definitely
> > need shop space. I'm using an old lightweight door as a table top for
> > the saw, when not in use. Then, I have positions and wall jigs to move
> > the table top for use as outfeed support. I actually enjoy the challenge
> > of making a small shop space function.
> > Dust collection gets most of it conveniently through the port in back of
> > the
> > saw. Adding dust collection above the blade is my next step. In the
Kelly
> > Mehler video, he uses a blade guard that extends out over the blade, for
> > cuts that require removal of the original guard.
> > Just for fun, you might also check out: http://www.sawstop.com/
> > They have an ingenius system that would save your fingers, should you
> > momentarily lose focus while cutting.
> > Another good motto:
> > "NEVER TAKE YOUR EYES OFF A MOVING BLADE"
> > Good luck with your purchase!
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Brad Smith, RPT
> > www.smithpiano.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sarah Fox [mailto:sarah@graphic-fusion.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:38 PM
> > To: Pianotech
> > Subject: Table saw recommendations?
> >
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