Ron This is a very honest answer which I respect and indeed can relate too. Now we are getting somewhere on this issue. And I am also greatful that someone who carries as much respect as you do (and deserve IMB) takes care to keep issues separate on this thread. And, as I've said on several other occasions... given the results that yourself and others have with alternative methods to making boards... your predictions may end up coming true when all is said and done. There is no doubt that while I defend Steinways design choices, I also have gone on record in applauding your own efforts and results, those of Ron Nossamans, and other alternative designs I have had the pleasure to have some limited experience with. But these issues are of themselves and have merit enough to warrant their own discussion. Thanks muchly for this straightforward posting. Cheers RicB I think there is a reason why the S&S company gets singled out. And BTW Ric, with respect to soundboards, I have heard and measured the same deterioration of the soundboards of other makers. But I suspect that a factor behind S&S being singled out for criticism comes about from their we-are-unquestionably-the-best attitude of themselves, which they ceaselessly pedal in their propaganda. When a manufacturer continues to insist that they are 'the best', while in reality they are just as much a part of the flock as many other manufacturers, they are setting themselves up in a position where many will try to knock them off their perch of alleged arrogance. The unquestionable marketing success of S&S has placed them in an almost unassailable position which makes it nearly impossible for any other manufacture to challenge them, to share the limelight which they enjoy. Their market dominating position releases them from having to compete directly on quality. Such is the level of their brand recognition, they could almost release a toy xylophone naming it as a piano designed by Steinway, and many would rush to buy it. Nevertheless, I suspect the next ten years will be a very interesting time in the micro-world of pianos. Ron O. -- OVERS PIANOS - SYDNEY Grand Piano Manufacturers
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