Thanks John. Then I have one more question. What information / data / hard evidence or anything besides supposition (regardless of how sensible on the surface it may seem) is there that supports the idea that the English eye/loop on a vertical hitch pin will allow for more vibration then the German eye/loop on a similiar pin. I'll be the first to admit that just looking at the pictures it is a very easy conclusion to jump to...... but that in the end doesnt add up to <<truth>>. Is there any thing beyond the basic reasoning (that seems to make sense) to go on to support all this ? Not meant as an attack for any one out there with sensitivities about this... I'm just curious as to what is actually known and what is in the end supposition. Cheers RicB
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