stretching wire

[paul bruesch]

Just a non-scientific inquiry here, but if the wire stretches any
perceptible amount, wouldn't the diameter decrease?  Even wires adjacent to
broken, 100-yr-old strings generally mic right on. Presumably, again using
unscientific notation, that is a specification for piano wire steel... that
is, to be able to resist stretching and the resulting diameter decrease.
Paul Bruesch
Stillwater, MN

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Ron Nossaman <rnossaman at cox.net> wrote:

>
>  The fact is you simply can't bear to have facts demonstrated to you that
> > aren't written ad nauseam in the Gospel according Ron Nossaman and that any
> > serious scientific data is beyond your powers of understanding.
> >
>
> Sorry John. This isn't some wild hair notion I cooked up on my own. It's
> the best evidence I could find out there among real engineering sources.
> This doesn't have my ego wrapped up in it anywhere. As I have said
> repeatedly, if you have an authoritative source that says modern music wire
> stretches in the long term under the conditions found in real pianos, I'd
> love to see it. It would make life so much easier to be able to blame the
> wire for everything.
>
> But then I'd be at a loss as to why low panel compression rib supported
> soundboards with laminated bridge caps stay in tune so much better than
> traditionally built panel supported boards with solid caps, using the same
> ever stretching wire. And no, that's not my wild hair notion either, but is
> reported by techs I've done belly work for.
>
>
>  > In the patent I suggested you look at, published in 1985, what sort of
> wire do you think they were dealing with, for heavens' sake?!  Of course you
> did not read it.
>
> Apparently not, but then patents have been issued for perpetual motion
> machines, which might cast some doubt as to it's being a credible
> information source. I'll wait for the diversionary chaff to clear and see if
> a real echo appears on the screen.
>
> Ron N
>
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