My mentor, as previously stated, was an aural tuner for over 30+ years. Pianos - and - Organs - and - some times as they play together. To - save - his - hearing - he moved to the use of Cybertuner. If your mentor started using a Cybertuner to save his hearing, he started using it for the wrong reason. Tuning a piano will not harm your hearing if it's done right. What some tuners do is strike a keys hard to set the string. That needs to be done whether using a ETD or tuning aurally. But most of the tuning can be done hitting the keys softly. And as Diane said, there is no evidence that tuning without an ETD is any more harmfull than tuning with one. Although there might be one or two RPT's who only tune aurally, they are not bashing those who use an ETD. What they are saying, however, is that until you know what a good tuning is supposed to sound like, you'll never know if your machine is doing it right, or not. What you keep trying to say, is that there is no need to know how to tune aurally, because all you need is that ETD. And that, Duaine, is just plain wrong. And the more you try to explain yourself, Duaine, the more you look like an ass. Wim -----Original Message----- From: Duaine Hechler <dahechler at att.net> To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org> Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2011 5:43 pm Subject: Re: [pianotech] Counts ....... On 01/28/2011 09:01 PM, Ron Nossaman wrote: On 1/28/2011 7:54 PM, Duaine Hechler wrote: > YES, my mentor, who is an RPT and used to tune aurally for 30+ years - > now - for close to 15 years - uses Cybertuner. An RPT?!!! You must hate your "mentor" on sight then (presuming you've actually ever seen her), considering your history of exhibited pathology against anyone even remotely suspected of being an RPT. Does this poor schlub, presuming she actually is aware that you're blaming her for yourself, approve of you in any way whatsoever? Has she, in fact, even ever heard of you? Should she send you a goody basket in appreciation of your on list representation of her efforts on your behalf, I heartily encourage you to eat all of the funny looking mushrooms, and as much of the basket as you can manage. Enjoy. Ron N on, first, you are base because it is a - he - and not a -she. Second, I am so tired of having my words twisted. I am - not - against RPT's as such, I'm against the RPT's that are rrogant to say that there is no room for ETD tuners. And that ETD uners should not be allowed in service until they pass the aural tuning est. As well as not being "professional" enough. And, now, not that I need to defend my mentor, but you are forcing me to it. My mentor, as previously stated, was an aural tuner for over 30+ years. Pianos - and - Organs - and - some times as they play together. To - save - his - hearing - he moved to the use of Cybertuner. This decision leads to - much - less - noise - having to do all the ifferent checks and tests involving harsh tones are diminished As well as the frequency of these harsh tones diminishing (if tuning a ot of pianos in the same day) BTW, we both sing in the same barbershop chapter. Duaine -- uaine Hechler iano, Player Piano, Pump Organ uning, Servicing & Rebuilding eed Organ Society Member lorissant, MO 63034 314) 838-5587 ahechler at att.net ww.hechlerpianoandorgan.com - ome & Business user of Linux - 11 years -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20110128/1815473a/attachment.htm>
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