[pianotech] Counts .......

[tnrwim at aol.com]

Wim, I swear, the more you talk, the more you set off my buttons.
What do I have to say to get you to go off your rocker?
Again, what gives you the right to tell a person that tuning pianos is
ot harmful to the ears ? Any - noise - loud or soft - is going to
amage the ear if done long enough !!!! And, the guy that told my mentor
as an ENT (Ear, Nose and Throat - Doctor)
I guess that is why there aren't any piano tuners over the age of 60. (in actuality, the mean age for piano tuners is almost 60).
Again, what gives you the right to tell a person their tuning sound like
h*t ?
I didn't tell you that. All I asked if how you know if your Cybertuning tunings are as good as a piano can be in tune? 
Again, what gives you the right to tell me that I don't know what a good
uning sounds like ?
I can tell you that because you don't have the "chops" to know if a piano is in tune
If ETD's didn't do a great job in tuning (which again has been proven)
hen I probably would not be tuning at all.
You can tune. Just don't claim the ETD tuning is better than an aural tuning
I have taken classes with Dean Reyburn demonstrating aural tuning and
ybertuner tunings side by side.
But didn't he also say that you need to check the tuning with your ear, to make sure it's doing the job right?
Or didn't you understand that part of the lecture?

gain, Wim, if I'm an ass, at least I'm still in St. Louis with a pretty
uccessful business and don't have to move to Hawaii.
Again, what does that have to do with your ETD claims? I'm having a blast in Hawaii, also running a successfull tuning business.
With your attitudes, you would never make it in Hawaii.
Wim








-----Original Message-----
From: Duaine Hechler <dahechler at att.net>
To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2011 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Counts .......


On 01/28/2011 10:34 PM, tnrwim at aol.com wrote:

     My mentor, as previously stated, was an aural tuner for over 30+ years.

     Pianos - and - Organs - and - some times as they play together.

     To - save - his - hearing - he moved to the use of Cybertuner.


 If your mentor started using a Cybertuner to save his hearing, he
 started using it for the wrong reason. Tuning a piano will not harm
 your hearing if it's done right. What some tuners do is strike a keys
 hard to set the string. That needs to be done whether using a ETD or
 tuning aurally. But most of the tuning can be done hitting the keys
 softly. And as Diane said, there is no evidence that tuning without an
 ETD is any more harmfull than tuning with one.
  
 Although there might be one or two RPT's who only tune aurally, they
 are not bashing those who use an ETD. What they are saying,
 however, is that until you know what a good tuning is supposed to
 sound like, you'll never know if your machine is doing it right, or
 not. What you keep trying to say, is that there is no need to know how
 to tune aurally, because all you need is that ETD. And that, Duaine,
 is just plain wrong. And the more you try to explain yourself, Duaine,
 the more you look like an ass.
  
 Wim
im, I swear, the more you talk, the more you set off my buttons.
Again, what gives you the right to tell a person that tuning pianos is
ot harmful to the ears ? Any - noise - loud or soft - is going to
amage the ear if done long enough !!!! And, the guy that told my mentor
as an ENT (Ear, Nose and Throat - Doctor)
Again, what gives you the right to tell a person their tuning sound like
h*t ?
Again, what gives you the right to tell me that I don't know what a good
uning sounds like ?
If ETD's didn't do a great job in tuning (which again has been proven)
hen I probably would not be tuning at all.
I have taken classes with Dean Reyburn demonstrating aural tuning and
ybertuner tunings side by side.
Again, Wim, if I'm an ass, at least I'm still in St. Louis with a pretty
uccessful business and don't have to move to Hawaii.
'nough said on that
-- 
uaine Hechler
iano, Player Piano, Pump Organ
uning, Servicing & Rebuilding
eed Organ Society Member
lorissant, MO 63034
314) 838-5587
ahechler at att.net
ww.hechlerpianoandorgan.com
-
ome & Business user of Linux - 11 years


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