[pianotech] protection from underfloor heating?

Joseph Garrett joegarrett at earthlink.net
Tue Dec 11 00:45:05 MST 2012


David B. said:
"A few weeks ago I posted about an old overdamper piano that had sat 
untuned for decades in a house the moldered unoccupied and damp for 
years. The person who now owns the house, inherited from a great-aunt, 
has restored the property, and wanted to keep the piano if possible, 
even though he realises what grade of piano it is, partly because it was 
probably in the house almost since it was built, partly because the case 
finish is still very good, and partly because he played it as a child on 
holiday there.
 
I posted asking about CA versus Epoxy, if it was decided to do anything 
at all with pinblock splits. The consensus here favoured epoxy somewhat 
CA, and leaving well alone another favoured option.
 
I'm looking for advice now regarding the fact that the house has 
underfloor heating. It's in a remote location without mains gas, and 
accessed by a road bridge that was too weak to tkae oil delivery trucks, 
so when the guy was planning the renovations, he opted for electric 
underfloor heating. After doing the work, the Council decided to renew 
the road bridge!
 
What are the implications for this old birdcage piano, of underfloor 
heating, and if it was desired to insluate the base of the piano from 
it, how might this best be achieved? Is underfloor heating likely to be 
more detrimental than other forms of heating?


The piano was fla by wildly different amounts over the compass, and I 
tuned it to a kind of average. The customer tells me that the top has 
fallen a semitone or so, but the middle three octaves are still 
presentable. I will be returning is some days to do more tuning. (Time 
for tuning was limited last time as I had to spend a lot of time on the 
action). 
Comments on underfloor heating appreciated! 
Best regards,"
 
David,
I would say that the balance of the piano, as you have described is suspect
that something may have come from together in the upper treble. Perhaps the
butt-block-pinblocks have dislodged. Or,....since I've seen this in many of
the beloved "rejects" sent here from your lovely Overdamper Country, (just
jesting<G>), upon the initial tuning, as you described before. If you did
not tune it to it's designed pitch, that could exacerbate the problem of
instability. I suggest getting back to the piano asap and retune it,  to
it's designed pitch, (I suggest 435cps), if a thorough inspection shows
nothing suspect. That would be my take on the situation. Perhaps with some
TLC, the piano can be put in a semblance of playable condition. (whatever
that is and is determined by your client and the depth of his pocket.<G>
I would approach this as if the piano were my large airtight wood stove. I
have a large metal clad insulator board under it, to  keep the heat from
the stove from attacking the asphalt tile floor. The opposite is needed,
but I believe the same kind of insulating board would accomplish what you
want. And that is to keep the direct heat away from the proximity of the
piano.<G> Worth a try. If that can't be accomplished than I suspect the
piano will self-destruct!
Have fun,
Joe


Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
Captain of the Tool Police
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