[pianotech] mailman list - explanation of HL messages

[Paul T Williams]

I think you're spot on with your observations, William. I hope that we 
convey an encouragement of lively discussions from within or without the 
membership qualifications withstanding.  There will be, unfortunately 
always,  a sour apple, who deem it upon themselves to disrupt a constant 
flow of good information on current topics to further promote the 
well-being of the guild or what we all want;  more information to the 
betterment of our dearly beloved keyboard instruments that we so dearly 
love to work on. I'm sad to say that I, too, have fed the weeds who 
disrupt the flow with negativity, and for that, I must apologize.  I want 
only the best for the Guild and its members, and still encourage those who 
visit our conversations to give and take information with the best of 
intentions from those who contribute.  I tire of those who can't seem to 
grasp the need for quick and informative answers and just stick to 
subjects at hand.  One bad apple won't destroy the whole bunch.

I guess there will always be somewhat of a disruption of this flow from 
characters who don't seem to see the "big picture", but continue to 
disrupt the flow with meaningless banter.  I, for one, will discontinue 
contributing to the current culpret who we all know, and hopefully, with 
all your help; we can get more constructive inputs from him to hopefully 
better the topics at hand as well as further situations we face from day 
to day.

Best,

Paul T. Williams RPT
Piano Technician
School of Music
University of Nebraska
Lincoln, NE 68588-0100
pwilliams4 at unl.edu




From:
William Monroe <bill at a440piano.net>
To:
pianotech at ptg.org
Date:
01/06/2012 01:18 PM
Subject:
Re: [pianotech] mailman list - explanation of HL messages



Critique is fine, Ryan.  What Joe (I interpret) is suggesting is that 
being a "squeaky wheel," or, a constant, harping annoyance like Duaine, 
does no good.  Make the critiques, which I think most of us in the 
organization accept, but after the point has been made, I don't think it's 
realistic for non-members to be constantly prodding the various leadership 
individuals of our organization to satisfy their "needs" as non-members. 
 Someone mentioned before the idea that non-members are not entitled to 
"rights."  I agree.  Does that mean we don't value their input?  Of course 
not.  Suggesting that would be rather thoughtless.  Do we want non-members 
as part of our community?  OF COURSE!  Their membership status has nothing 
to do with the validity of their knowledge and insights.

As I said, I have always felt that criticisms are taken seriously, no 
matter their origin.  But someone like Duaine is simply a nuisance with no 
capability for intelligent dialogue (there, I said it).  Just look at his 
recent interpretation of Joe's email that we are responding to.  How DOES 
one make that kind of interpretation and seriously think there's any merit 
in it?  It's pretty obtuse, pretty well mired in his own agenda.

Again, I believe (and I bet Joe does too) that serious, thoughtful 
criticisms and suggestions are taken seriously no matter their origin.

William R. Monroe



On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Ryan Sowers <tunerryan at gmail.com> wrote:
Joe, I understand your perspective and have tended to agree with it in the 
past. 

These days I see one of the problems of PTG is that it is too 
self-absorbed as an organization. Just because someone is not a member it 
doesn't follow that they can't contribute and have something to say. There 
are some brilliant technicians who are not members - Bill Spurlock and 
Joel Rappaport come to mind. PTG doesn't have a monopoly on the truth and 
we should be open to critique no matter where it comes from. That's one 
way we move forward. 

Ryan


On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Joseph Garrett <joegarrett at earthlink.net> 
wrote:
The Heckler said: "Or YEAP! The squeakiest wheel gets the attention and
grease."

Duaine,
In order to get the grease, you need to be an integral part of the
machine!! Otherwise, you get sent to the scrap heap!<G>
Just my take on it.
Joe


Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
Captain of the Tool Police
Squares R I





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