[CAUT] Scientific study - Stainless wire (Help!)

[Jim Busby]

Hi Ed,

 

Since Juan made the scale I'm not sure if he'd want me to share it with
CAUT, but I'll ask him. He'll probably be fine with it. People need to
understand that size 15 Pure Sound can't be switched indiscriminately
with, say, size 15 Mapes. 

 

It's at home, I'll sent it to you.

 

Jim 

 

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From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ed
Sutton
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:02 AM
To: College and University Technicians
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Scientific study - Stainless wire (Help!)

 

Jim-

 

Could you send me, or perhaps post to CAUT, the PureSound scale you use
with an S & S M?

 

Thanks!

 

Ed Sutton

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	From: Jim Busby <mailto:jim_busby at byu.edu>  

	To: College and University Technicians <mailto:caut at ptg.org>  

	Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:49 AM

	Subject: Re: [CAUT] Scientific study - Stainless wire (Help!)

	 

	Paul,

	 

	Here I thought I was the only "crazy", but I'm finding more
people coming out of the stainless closet! Peter Grey, back east, has
done five Steinways, and we've done ten here. Ed has used the wire for
historical instruments. I know of a few others who have done one or two.

	 

	I would really like to know what pianos you have strung with
stainless. Also, please let me know your experience with the wire. I'll
be helping Juan with an article soon and would like more input from
other technicians.

	 

	I do have some old wire. Good thought.

	 

	Thanks.

	 

	Regards,

	Jim Busby

	 

	
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	From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On
Behalf Of Paul T Williams
	Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:53 AM
	To: College and University Technicians
	Subject: Re: [CAUT] Scientific study - Stainless wire (Help!)

	 

	
	I really like this question as I have used only the stainless
since coming to UNL.  I used Mapes in the "private" world for 15 years
and wonder know why I didn't go stainless sooner!   
	
	Also,Jim,  do you have some old wire in the corner of the shop
somewhere?  Old vs. new wire might be another study... 
	
	Best, 
	
	Paul 
	
	
	

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	Hi Jurgen, 
	  
	You're right. I can't see why Americans don't use it, except
that they haven't used it. I "went out on a limb" and experimented with
it on one piano. Now after about 3 years I'll use it EVERY time I can! 
	  
	I think the tuning stability has to do with the malleability
that Daniel mentioned. It's absolutely amazing to me that it takes only
two or three tunings on a newly strung piano and it's stable, ready to
play without any "prepping" (bending, etc.) Besides the stainless factor
I think this is the biggest reason why I use it. Instant stability. Good
question. Thanks. 
	  
	Jim Busby BYU 
	  

	 

	
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	From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On
Behalf Of Jurgen Goering
	Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:09 PM
	To: caut at ptg.org
	Subject: Re: [CAUT] Scientific study - Stainless wire (Help!) 
	  
	Hello Jim, 
	this sounds like a very worthwhile, interesting, and for me,
exciting prospect. 
	  
	As a believer in stainless wire for many different situations
and applications, I am surprised it is so slow to get recognition in
North America. 
	  
	Among the things you mention, I wonder if there is any way to
study how and why stainless wire attains such a high degree of tuning
stability. 
	  
	Jurgen Goering 
	Piano Forte Supply 
	(250) 754-2440 
	info at pianofortesupply.com 
	http://www.pianofortesupply.com 
	  
	  
	On Aug 27, 2007, at 14:48, Jim Busby wrote: 
	List, 
	  
	We (BYU) finally are ready to do some scientific studies of
stainless wire. This will be conducted by Physics professors/students
here at BYU. Could any of you help me pose some "questions", "queries"
or whatever you want to call it, for these studies? 
	  
	One of our student piano technicians is doing his senior project
and his professors (who we've bugged for years) are just now getting
excited about this. 
	  
	Here are some things I've thought of; 
	  
	1 What are the actual differences in sound between stainless and
Mapes or Roslau? (Spectrum, etc.) 
	2 What are the differences in inharmonicity between the two? 
	3 (how?) Do bass strings with stainless core sound different
than other core? 
	4 etc.... 
	  
	Jim Ellis, others, I'd really like some input on this. We have
our ducks in a row so now is the time. 
	  
	Thanks, 
	Jim Busby BYU 

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