---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hi Doug, I haven't had much experience with tuning pianos very flat or sharp,=20 but I can relay what I've read on this list. Assuming the piano is capable of being tuned to 440, some have=20 suggested they like to bring the piano all the way up to 440 in the=20 first tuning session - via multiple passes or over-compensating when=20 setting the first pitch(es) (something like A442 if bringing it up from=20= A436). I thought I had read from some who don't think repeated visits=20 are necessary, but I'm sure there is some debate about that. Also, they=20= tend to charge more for a tuning with a pitch raise, which is=20 understandable - particularly if they're doing multiple quick passes. However you decide to handle a pitch raise, what James Grebe said I=20 think is good. Make it specifically (rather than casually) known=20 up-front what the customer should expect as far as what is required=20 from you to get the piano in tune (as he says, "another tuning in 2=20 weeks and then 3 months"). - John > As a new piano tuner, I am learning a lot as I go and tune different > > piano=92s and typically I am tuning the older piano=92s and some = new/better > > ones.=A0 This past Sat. I tuned a piano for a home that had a console > > that had never been tuned =91in a long time=92. I warned them that I = might > > break strings and that it will go out of tune quickly because of the=20= > condition > > of the strings and the piano itself. Well I was called back by > > the customer saying =91the piano is still out of tune and you must not > > have checked it before you left=92.=A0 Before I left I told him, =91your= =20 > piano > > is most likely going to go flat somewhat because it has not been tuned > > at all in such a long time (20+ yrs) and that it should tuned every 6=20= > months. The > > piano was old and recently had some action work, but the strings = looked > > old and dirty.=A0 I was careful not to break any strings and when I = left=20 > it sounded > > good and the funny thing was the customer said it sounded good after I=20= > finished. > > It was not that out of tune, A440 sounded like it was between g-sharp=20= > and a, but > > not an entire half/step off. > > =A0 > > So, what do I do now? Has anyone been in my shoes before? Go back and > > do a =91free=92 fix it up tuning, or tell him, he has to pay for a 2nd=20= > tuning. Is this > > going to risk my reputation? He had the action done by another local=20= > PTG member > > and I am afraid that if I don=92t go back and =91fix=92 this, I am = going to=20 > get that > > reputation and the other PTG member might tell others about the =91part=20= > time=92 tooner, > > which I do not want to be and this is why I joined the PTG, to get=20 > better. Any > > thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. > > =A0 > > I thought the tuning was good, inspite of the condition of the piano=20= > and the strings. > > It sounded alot better, but I knew it was going to need another tuning=20= > soon. > > =A0 > > Any advice, thoughts? > > =A0 > > Thanks. > > Doug Renz > > Associate PTG member, Rochester, NY ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 5562 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/2b/55/19/34/attachment.bin ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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